hjumper33 0 #1 June 14, 2012 [/url]http://www.squirrel.ws/[url] So it looks like a couple of the more well known BASE wingsuit pilots around are starting a new wingsuit company. Im going to be very interested to see what comes out of this company as I know and highly respect the guys involved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5.samadhi 0 #2 June 14, 2012 why hype the site before there is even a picture of the wingsuit they want to sell? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #3 June 14, 2012 Can't fault them doing a little marketing. In any case, the website is still a one page placeholder with no detail or even a full photo of a suit. So no need to click through yet unless really eager. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hjumper33 0 #4 June 14, 2012 Because if you know the people involved, its going to be good, and lots of people in the wingsuit community are going to buzz over it, including me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skwrl 56 #5 June 15, 2012 <--- approves of name. Let's see some cool suits, guys!Skwrl Productions - Wingsuit Photography Northeast Bird School - Chief Logistics Guy and Video Dork Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #6 June 15, 2012 Quote Because if you know the people involved, its going to be good, and lots of people in the wingsuit community are going to buzz over it, including me. Being an athlete and being a manufacturer are two very different things. The one advantage of the athlete is he knows what he needs. In some cases they happen to align successfully. See Robi Pecnik. This is not necessarily the norm though, or a guarantee as you seem to imply. The leading parachute manufacturer is not managed by the leading parachute pilots... though it does employ them as athletes. I'm interested to see what comes out of it though, and I wish the best. Sidenote: the words "aerodynamic research" have a very specific and substantial meaning. I hope those words aren't just intended to generate buzz. www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #7 June 15, 2012 Quote Being an athlete and being a manufacturer are two very different things. The one advantage of the athlete is he knows what he needs. I'm interested to see what comes out of it though, and I wish the best. Sidenote: the words "aerodynamic research" have a very specific and substantial meaning. I hope those words aren't just intended to generate buzz. www.squirrel.ws/ do a quick search about the 3rd guy, Luc Armant From Matt's FAcebook, the targeted market would be more for BASEjumpers, and that they are not planning on trying to rule the World. Wish them all the best, hope they bring us great new ideas scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b52 0 #8 October 30, 2012 Just saw that the page got a face lift. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hjumper33 0 #9 December 16, 2012 Lots of new stuff on the website. I got word that production is going to start pretty soon. Really looking forward to a wingsuit that has some aerospace engineering behind it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #10 December 16, 2012 Nice looking product; at least on this screen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #11 December 16, 2012 Saw a couple of the prototypes and you would love them Chuckscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b52 0 #12 December 16, 2012 It seems they put a lot of thought into their suits, really nice. I am a little bit torn about the Mylar though. Love that Luc's supporting them. Doesn't Robi also have a background in aerospace engineering? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #13 December 16, 2012 QuoteIt seems they put a lot of thought into their suits, really nice. I am a little bit torn about the Mylar though. Love that Luc's supporting them. Doesn't Robi also have a background in aerospace engineering? Where is the mylar in the suits? If it's supporting the ribs then I can tell you with 100% certainty that it's going to be problematic. Both BirdMan and PF played with mylar and there was simply no way you could keep it straight and not crack all to hell. Many, MANY of us had to deal with this problem back in the day. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b52 0 #14 December 16, 2012 It's on the website: The bottom surface of the leading edge is Mylar-reinforced to maintain profile structure and proper feeding of the inlets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hjumper33 0 #15 December 16, 2012 I think the mylar fabric in the flexible woven part you see just above the vents, not the stiffeners that we still see in the v series suits that do seem to cause issues from time to time. Chuck- still have to deal with it with the V4 and putting it away very very very carefully not to bend or break it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #16 December 16, 2012 As a natural sceptic (ok, miserable bastard) I didn't think I was going to be particularly interested in this. Now, I'm actually quite excited. 3 good people at the top, website refreshingly light on outrageous performance claims and heavy on design detail and manufacturing by a company as experienced as Ozone. Looking forward to seeing one in action Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #17 December 17, 2012 QuoteI think the mylar fabric in the flexible woven part you see just above the vents, not the stiffeners that we still see in the v series suits that do seem to cause issues from time to time. Chuck- still have to deal with it with the V4 and putting it away very very very carefully not to bend or break it I hear you, brother. As for the "leading edge reinforcement": that's like an old BM Blade then. That shit didn't work at all. Same problems with not maintaining it's form after you packed it up in it's bag. I prefer the foam stiffener that Tony uses to maintain a strong leading edge. Still, these new Squirrel suits DO look fantastic. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #18 December 18, 2012 Quote Doesn't Robi also have a background in aerospace engineering? I am pretty sure he does. www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #19 December 18, 2012 QuoteQuote... I prefer the foam stiffener that Tony uses to maintain a strong leading edge. Still, these new Squirrel suits DO look fantastic. Chuck Have you had experience with the poured/molded foam Robi has put in the leading edge of the newer suits? Doesn't break down like the foam that both Robi and Tony have used in the past. So far, the only drawback to it that I've found is that it is warmer on the skin in the summer months, but appreciable in the cooler months. Has a different feel in-flight, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkymonkeyONE 4 #20 December 19, 2012 I have paid for and personally own ten PF suits which are currently hanging on my rack at my school in TX. While it's great the have other "more advanced" suits for your own use, I'm cool with the "older" PF suits that I have for student/ intermediate use. Never mind the three GS-1s, the two S-Fly suits I still have, or the three Tony suits I have. Oddly, I still even have a Nitro Rigging Flockus. Ultimately, I'm not aligned AT ALL with any one particular manufacturer. That's the benefit for being an independent Instructor, Trainer, and Salesman for everyone who chooses to support your school. Chuck PFC/E, BMCI, AFFI, TMI, SLI, PRO, S&TA, D-12501 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gisellemartins 0 #21 December 21, 2012 Seems Like Luc Armant copied my idea from 5 years ago of expanding the wingspan of the suits with carbon fiber rods I knew when glider designers start working with wingsuits the the first thing they would do is to introduce carbon fiber rods to expand the wingspan, Luc Armant is a glider designer and expert in fluid dynamics, this is the first time I heard a glider designer get involved with wingsuits, Tonysuits better get prepared because if Luc really get involved in the project tony will have some serious wingsuits to compete with and we will be soaring on wingsuits soonJust in case... ozone has the factory, the money, Luc is an expert and the wingsuit market is exploding.. Oh now I wish I had the money to start working on my crazy carbon fiber wing expandable wingsuit project from 5 years ago, oh well too late.... go for it Luc :) Lauren G Martins Lauren Martins - www.youtube.com/user/gisellemartins20 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,489 #22 December 21, 2012 Quote Seems Like Luc Armant copied my idea from 5 years ago of expanding the wingspan of the suits with carbon fiber rods You must be looking at a different wingsuit then. Care to share?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skwrl 56 #23 December 21, 2012 Quote expanding the wingspan of the suits with carbon fiber rods Huh? The one I'm looking at on their website has carbon fiber grippers (as opposed to, for example, the wooden grippers that have been used in Tonysuits'). Are they offering a suit that uses carbon fiber rods to expand the span of the wing as well, or did you just mis-read their page?Skwrl Productions - Wingsuit Photography Northeast Bird School - Chief Logistics Guy and Video Dork Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gisellemartins 0 #24 December 21, 2012 Quote Quote expanding the wingspan of the suits with carbon fiber rods Huh? The one I'm looking at on their website has carbon fiber grippers (as opposed to, for example, the wooden grippers that have been used in Tonysuits'). Are they offering a suit that uses carbon fiber rods to expand the span of the wing as well, or did you just mis-read their page? No you didn't miss read it, maybe you can't understand it but the carbon fiber rods or "Grippers" as you wish to call it does expand the wing area and wingspan of the suit. From what I heard they are trying different protos, with longer carbon rods extended wings to rigid suits. Good luck for the team. LaurenLauren Martins - www.youtube.com/user/gisellemartins20 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skwrl 56 #25 December 21, 2012 Quote Quote Quote expanding the wingspan of the suits with carbon fiber rods Huh? The one I'm looking at on their website has carbon fiber grippers (as opposed to, for example, the wooden grippers that have been used in Tonysuits'). Are they offering a suit that uses carbon fiber rods to expand the span of the wing as well, or did you just mis-read their page? No you didn't miss read it, maybe you can't understand it but the carbon fiber rods or "Grippers" as you wish to call it does expand the wing area and wingspan of the suit. From what I heard they are trying different protos, with longer carbon rods extended wings to rigid suits. Good luck for the team. Lauren Grippers (as they call them) aren't anything new to wingsuits. (I have them in my old Tonysuit S-bird and X-bird.) The difference here is that they're carbon fiber rods and not thin wooden dowels. I think even they are saying that they don't do anything different except shave a few grams off of total weight. Personally, I'm torn on the issue. I've busted gripper dowels, and easily replaced them. If I shattered a carbon fiber gripper tube, I'd probably replace it with a wooden one.Skwrl Productions - Wingsuit Photography Northeast Bird School - Chief Logistics Guy and Video Dork Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. 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SkymonkeyONE 4 #20 December 19, 2012 I have paid for and personally own ten PF suits which are currently hanging on my rack at my school in TX. While it's great the have other "more advanced" suits for your own use, I'm cool with the "older" PF suits that I have for student/ intermediate use. Never mind the three GS-1s, the two S-Fly suits I still have, or the three Tony suits I have. Oddly, I still even have a Nitro Rigging Flockus. Ultimately, I'm not aligned AT ALL with any one particular manufacturer. That's the benefit for being an independent Instructor, Trainer, and Salesman for everyone who chooses to support your school. Chuck PFC/E, BMCI, AFFI, TMI, SLI, PRO, S&TA, D-12501 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gisellemartins 0 #21 December 21, 2012 Seems Like Luc Armant copied my idea from 5 years ago of expanding the wingspan of the suits with carbon fiber rods I knew when glider designers start working with wingsuits the the first thing they would do is to introduce carbon fiber rods to expand the wingspan, Luc Armant is a glider designer and expert in fluid dynamics, this is the first time I heard a glider designer get involved with wingsuits, Tonysuits better get prepared because if Luc really get involved in the project tony will have some serious wingsuits to compete with and we will be soaring on wingsuits soonJust in case... ozone has the factory, the money, Luc is an expert and the wingsuit market is exploding.. Oh now I wish I had the money to start working on my crazy carbon fiber wing expandable wingsuit project from 5 years ago, oh well too late.... go for it Luc :) Lauren G Martins Lauren Martins - www.youtube.com/user/gisellemartins20 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #22 December 21, 2012 Quote Seems Like Luc Armant copied my idea from 5 years ago of expanding the wingspan of the suits with carbon fiber rods You must be looking at a different wingsuit then. Care to share?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skwrl 56 #23 December 21, 2012 Quote expanding the wingspan of the suits with carbon fiber rods Huh? The one I'm looking at on their website has carbon fiber grippers (as opposed to, for example, the wooden grippers that have been used in Tonysuits'). Are they offering a suit that uses carbon fiber rods to expand the span of the wing as well, or did you just mis-read their page?Skwrl Productions - Wingsuit Photography Northeast Bird School - Chief Logistics Guy and Video Dork Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gisellemartins 0 #24 December 21, 2012 Quote Quote expanding the wingspan of the suits with carbon fiber rods Huh? The one I'm looking at on their website has carbon fiber grippers (as opposed to, for example, the wooden grippers that have been used in Tonysuits'). Are they offering a suit that uses carbon fiber rods to expand the span of the wing as well, or did you just mis-read their page? No you didn't miss read it, maybe you can't understand it but the carbon fiber rods or "Grippers" as you wish to call it does expand the wing area and wingspan of the suit. From what I heard they are trying different protos, with longer carbon rods extended wings to rigid suits. Good luck for the team. LaurenLauren Martins - www.youtube.com/user/gisellemartins20 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skwrl 56 #25 December 21, 2012 Quote Quote Quote expanding the wingspan of the suits with carbon fiber rods Huh? The one I'm looking at on their website has carbon fiber grippers (as opposed to, for example, the wooden grippers that have been used in Tonysuits'). Are they offering a suit that uses carbon fiber rods to expand the span of the wing as well, or did you just mis-read their page? No you didn't miss read it, maybe you can't understand it but the carbon fiber rods or "Grippers" as you wish to call it does expand the wing area and wingspan of the suit. From what I heard they are trying different protos, with longer carbon rods extended wings to rigid suits. Good luck for the team. Lauren Grippers (as they call them) aren't anything new to wingsuits. (I have them in my old Tonysuit S-bird and X-bird.) The difference here is that they're carbon fiber rods and not thin wooden dowels. I think even they are saying that they don't do anything different except shave a few grams off of total weight. Personally, I'm torn on the issue. I've busted gripper dowels, and easily replaced them. If I shattered a carbon fiber gripper tube, I'd probably replace it with a wooden one.Skwrl Productions - Wingsuit Photography Northeast Bird School - Chief Logistics Guy and Video Dork Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
