Venom1986 0 #1 August 20, 2012 Hello at all, I ask me about the difference in performance between the Vampire 3 and the V4. Optical there is more surface but is the performance increase so much higher that it´s worth it to buy a new V4 or it is marginally and better to stay by the V3 ? Thanks for help Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mikki_ZH 0 #2 August 20, 2012 how do you define performance? What is it that you want for your wingsuit?Michi (#1068) hsbc/gba/sba www.swissbaseassociation.ch www.michibase.ch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Venom1986 0 #3 August 20, 2012 Quote how do you define performance? What is it that you want for your wingsuit? For what the Vampire is made speed and distance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tr027 0 #4 August 20, 2012 Everyone has a different body, skillset and values every .1 GR or mph gained differently against investing in the latest model. So it's quite subjective. If you fly frequently I'd advise yes it's worthwhile for sure. "The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it. " -John Galt from Atlas Shrugged, 1957 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hjumper33 0 #5 August 21, 2012 Speed is the same, float is better, so therefore glide is better. If you base jump, the start is shorter as well. I find it equally easy to fly as the V3. If you are planning to flock with it, then keep the V3. If you are planning on base jumping it, then the V4 is an upgrade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 5.samadhi 0 #6 August 21, 2012 how much faster does it start? comparatively...like difference between 3 or 4 seconds? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr_bird 0 #7 August 21, 2012 QuoteIf you are planning to flock with it, then keep the V3. - incorrect. It's much difficult to flock in V3 then in V4 (if the flock fly instead falling down on bellies) because to swell in V3 you need forward speed which usually more than the flock speed. Swelling in V4 much easier, because of extra clobber on the sides. May be you will don't mind if you very light and high, but usually flocking is V3 much toughly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 5.samadhi 0 #8 August 21, 2012 QuoteQuoteIf you are planning to flock with it, then keep the V3. - incorrect. It's much difficult to flock in V3 then in V4 (if the flock fly instead falling down on bellies) because to swell in V3 you need forward speed which usually more than the flock speed. Swelling in V4 much easier, because of extra clobber on the sides. May be you will don't mind if you very light and high, but usually flocking is V3 much toughly. hahahaha awesome post Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites johnmatrix 21 #9 August 22, 2012 Quoteextra clobber on the sides. I will definitely be using this terminology from now on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,500 #10 August 22, 2012 Does anyone else have a problem with swelling in a V4, or do you just bite your tongue and picture Maggie Thatcher?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites robinheid 0 #11 August 28, 2012 Quote Quote If you are planning to flock with it, then keep the V3. - incorrect. It's much difficult to flock in V3 then in V4 (if the flock fly instead falling down on bellies) because to swell in V3 you need forward speed which usually more than the flock speed. Swelling in V4 much easier, because of extra clobber on the sides. May be you will don't mind if you very light and high, but usually flocking is V3 much toughly. Sorry for the people making fun of your English. I wish I could speak and write in Russian 1/100th as well as you do English, but could you please check with an English speaker better than yourself and then tell us what words you actually mean when you say "swellling" and "clobber"? Tanks monnn... 44 SCR-6933 / SCS-3463 / D-5533 / BASE 44 / CCS-37 / 82d Airborne (Ret.) "The beginning of wisdom is to first call things by their right names." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Mikki_ZH 0 #2 August 20, 2012 how do you define performance? What is it that you want for your wingsuit?Michi (#1068) hsbc/gba/sba www.swissbaseassociation.ch www.michibase.ch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Venom1986 0 #3 August 20, 2012 Quote how do you define performance? What is it that you want for your wingsuit? For what the Vampire is made speed and distance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tr027 0 #4 August 20, 2012 Everyone has a different body, skillset and values every .1 GR or mph gained differently against investing in the latest model. So it's quite subjective. If you fly frequently I'd advise yes it's worthwhile for sure. "The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it. " -John Galt from Atlas Shrugged, 1957 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hjumper33 0 #5 August 21, 2012 Speed is the same, float is better, so therefore glide is better. If you base jump, the start is shorter as well. I find it equally easy to fly as the V3. If you are planning to flock with it, then keep the V3. If you are planning on base jumping it, then the V4 is an upgrade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5.samadhi 0 #6 August 21, 2012 how much faster does it start? comparatively...like difference between 3 or 4 seconds? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr_bird 0 #7 August 21, 2012 QuoteIf you are planning to flock with it, then keep the V3. - incorrect. It's much difficult to flock in V3 then in V4 (if the flock fly instead falling down on bellies) because to swell in V3 you need forward speed which usually more than the flock speed. Swelling in V4 much easier, because of extra clobber on the sides. May be you will don't mind if you very light and high, but usually flocking is V3 much toughly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5.samadhi 0 #8 August 21, 2012 QuoteQuoteIf you are planning to flock with it, then keep the V3. - incorrect. It's much difficult to flock in V3 then in V4 (if the flock fly instead falling down on bellies) because to swell in V3 you need forward speed which usually more than the flock speed. Swelling in V4 much easier, because of extra clobber on the sides. May be you will don't mind if you very light and high, but usually flocking is V3 much toughly. hahahaha awesome post Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnmatrix 21 #9 August 22, 2012 Quoteextra clobber on the sides. I will definitely be using this terminology from now on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #10 August 22, 2012 Does anyone else have a problem with swelling in a V4, or do you just bite your tongue and picture Maggie Thatcher?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robinheid 0 #11 August 28, 2012 Quote Quote If you are planning to flock with it, then keep the V3. - incorrect. It's much difficult to flock in V3 then in V4 (if the flock fly instead falling down on bellies) because to swell in V3 you need forward speed which usually more than the flock speed. Swelling in V4 much easier, because of extra clobber on the sides. May be you will don't mind if you very light and high, but usually flocking is V3 much toughly. Sorry for the people making fun of your English. I wish I could speak and write in Russian 1/100th as well as you do English, but could you please check with an English speaker better than yourself and then tell us what words you actually mean when you say "swellling" and "clobber"? Tanks monnn... 44 SCR-6933 / SCS-3463 / D-5533 / BASE 44 / CCS-37 / 82d Airborne (Ret.) "The beginning of wisdom is to first call things by their right names." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
