chriseidan 0 #1 February 25, 2014 can you guys help me out with pros cons on the two suit how they compare and what would be your choice. cheers guys Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WickedWingsuits 0 #2 February 25, 2014 chriseidancan you guys help me out with pros cons on the two suit how they compare and what would be your choice. cheers guys What are you thinking you would like to use it for?Summer Rental special, 5 weeks for the price of 4! That is $160 a month. Try before You Buy with Wicked Wingsuits - WingsuitRental.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluhdow 31 #3 February 25, 2014 The rule of thumb is always get the biggest possible suit. That said, you should consider the Aura. Unless you're jumping a Petra 78. Then you should go a little more conservative with the Colugo.Apex BASE #1816 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fall0ut 3 #4 February 26, 2014 If your jump number 160 until now is accurate you should better think about suits the size of a PF Phantom3 or Shadow to start with - after you completed 200 freefall jumps and a FJC with a decent instructor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf62 0 #5 February 26, 2014 BluhdowThe rule of thumb is always get the biggest possible suit. You trying to catch a Jarno fish? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chriseidan 0 #6 February 26, 2014 jump numbers are older just havnt updated i started on a prodigy then an sfly expert will be doing a number of jumps on a havok now in march. just doing some research on the different types of suits out there these two seemed good for distance speed not looking for acro suits but hang time and distance. im basically educating myself as where to go later this year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roostnureye 2 #7 February 26, 2014 chriseidanjump numbers are older just havnt updated i started on a prodigy then an sfly expert will be doing a number of jumps on a havok now in march. just doing some research on the different types of suits out there these two seemed good for distance speed not looking for acro suits but hang time and distance. im basically educating myself as where to go later this year. your best bet would be try them both before buying. i owned a colugo and have flown a scorpion, two different suits completely.Flock University FWC / ZFlock B.A.S.E. 1580 Aussie BASE 121 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #8 February 26, 2014 FWIW, I've jumped the Colugo and Aura. I really liked the Aura, and didn't like the Colugo much. I've twice flown next to a Scorpion, and was quite impressed with it. Given a choice (not having flown the Scorpion), I'd probably choose a Scorpion anyway, simply because it _appeared_ to have less drag than the Colugo. Follow the recommended progression, get into an Aura if your goal is to just fly flat, dumb, happy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeemax 0 #9 February 27, 2014 Option C. Fly a smaller suit a whole heap more. What's the rush to jump the big suits?Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #10 February 27, 2014 Zeemax Option C. Fly a smaller suit a whole heap more. What's the rush to jump the big suits? Cuz it's all the rage these days? Had a guy show up Sat with an X3. He wanted to celebrate his 200th skydive with a rider on his back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wasatchrider 0 #11 February 27, 2014 DSE ***Option C. Fly a smaller suit a whole heap more. What's the rush to jump the big suits? Cuz it's all the rage these days? Had a guy show up Sat with an X3. He wanted to celebrate his 200th skydive with a rider on his back.first wing suit jump? or already flyingBASE 1519 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voilsb 1 #12 February 28, 2014 DSE Had a guy show up Sat with an X3. He wanted to celebrate his 200th skydive with a rider on his back. Seems legit. Did you offer him a couple GoPros so he could film it from every angle?Brian Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdynamnam 28 #13 February 28, 2014 Wild prairie? in my country we have thrown in just a simple minimum of regulation. It goes like this: We put suits into generic categories based on size. For our cat 4 suits (like X3), you need at least 100 WS jumps or if the producer of that suit recommends more, then that is the requirement. Same kind of gentle regulations that is in place for people wanting to downsize canopy, its to make them (more) safe and protect them as much as possible from themselves, while they gather the required skills. You do have some canopy downsize regulation in place in the US, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chriseidan 0 #14 February 28, 2014 im just looking for information on the two suits i am already jumping smaller suits and will be doing so for awhile longer i am simply educating myself as to what is out there i have not found much info about the differences between these two suits and was curious. how do they fly are they fast nimble floaty etc it seem the logical next step to intermediate/advanced wingsuit to start learning as much as you can about different wingsuits, i know the two suits are different i was wondering how they differ. in the same way as i spent a long time learning about skydiving then trackingsuits then smaller wingsuits in general i am now looking into bigger suits and gathering information. different suit for different things right? dont think its rushing anything to go from prodigy to sfly expert to havok to colugo/scorpion in 150 200 ws jumps? or correct me if im wrong... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skwrl 56 #15 February 28, 2014 Why not try both and see what you think? The same suit in different pilots' hands will perform differently, due to variations in body shape, flying style, etc.Skwrl Productions - Wingsuit Photography Northeast Bird School - Chief Logistics Guy and Video Dork Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uberchris 0 #16 February 28, 2014 DSEFollow the recommended progression, get into an Aura if your goal is to just fly flat, dumb, happy. could you elaborate spot? im not sure at what youre getting at. can an aura not be flown super fast and super steep and agile like say a vampire?gravity brings me down......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #17 February 28, 2014 uberchris***Follow the recommended progression, get into an Aura if your goal is to just fly flat, dumb, happy. could you elaborate spot? im not sure at what youre getting at. can an aura not be flown super fast and super steep and agile like say a vampire? To elaborate: If you want to do precision flocks, if you want to do acro, if you want to backfly, if you want to do anything outside of more-or-less solo belly flight, then monster suits aren't likely what you want. Yes, an Aura can be flown super fast and super steep like a Vampire. Agile as a Vampire? I don't have enough jumps on the Aura to compare, and I don't do proximity so I can't intelligently compare, but in the few Aura and many Vampire flights I have, I'd struggle to believe that the Aura can be as agile as a Vampire. Remove the "exceptional" pilots from the conversation, talk about "average pilot" and I'm entirely certain the Aura is nowhere near as agile as the Vampire. FWIW, guys show up at the DZ regularly with big suits, and myself and other regular flyers are routinely kicking their asses for distance, speed, hang time. It's not very often about the suit, it's usually the pilot. FWIW, the 200 jump guy last weekend had 15-20 WS jumps, and doing his first jumps on the large suit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gstarnet 0 #18 March 4, 2014 Quote did you let this happened at your DZ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #19 March 4, 2014 gstarnet Quote did you let this happened at your DZ? It's impossible to control who shows up with what. If you're asking if he was allowed to jump his large suit, eventually yes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freeflaw 0 #20 March 10, 2014 Colugo: Well behaved, highly pressurized, dives and flares well, super easy pull Scorpion: Fast, twitchy/precise, dives and flares well The scorpion is a little more difficult to fly it seems. I really like it though. Very hard to choose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WickedWingsuits 0 #21 March 10, 2014 FreeflawColugo: Well behaved, highly pressurized, dives and flares well, super easy pull Scorpion: Fast, twitchy/precise, dives and flares well The scorpion is a little more difficult to fly it seems. I really like it though. Very hard to choose. "Twitchy" isn't a word I would use to describe the Scorpion. I find it very stable. It only put me on my back once but that was in a serious Speed run and was more about me than the suit.Summer Rental special, 5 weeks for the price of 4! That is $160 a month. Try before You Buy with Wicked Wingsuits - WingsuitRental.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freeflaw 0 #22 March 10, 2014 I had trouble finding a proper adjective, hence the twitchy/precise. I should have phrased it as sensitive to input. Loosing vertical altitude to drop down to another pilot was incredibly easy. It seems as stable in a dive as the colugo while feeling a little less stable on the roll axis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imsparticus 0 #23 March 10, 2014 I wish there was abit more info on the colugo 2 anyone know anything? was ment to be released late feb. im guessing it will go down in size and be more for speed like the scorpion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freeflaw 0 #24 March 14, 2014 Put some more jumps on the scorpion...initial impression still holds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uberchris 0 #25 March 22, 2014 ive got about 50 on my P3 right now and loving it, would you say that after i hit the 100 or more mark on my P3 that i would be able to try out something like an R or S-bird? all the flying i do is fast and steep, and im not interested in the flock skydiving thing, im trying to learn speed and distance for the BASe environment.gravity brings me down......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites