Martini 0 #26 October 19, 2014 A docile (no fun) canopy for $2000 to replace a super-fun and wingsuit-friendly canopy that costs $3-400? Too much crack around here and it's not the nylon kind.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #27 October 19, 2014 I'm getting one if it is gonna make me fly like Scotty Bob. fuck sabre 1 that costs 300 bucks and that will do exact same thing. Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flipwithit 0 #28 October 20, 2014 i fly a sabre 1, and no intentions to change that but i see more people going to 7 cells than ever....i fucking hate the snively skydiving 7 cells on the market, but if i were to get a 7 cell it would be the epicene because it isn't a typical skydiving 7 cell. THAT SAID icarus is deveoloping a 5 cell cross braced canopy for wingsuting and I've been trying to get my hands on one. i know there is a demo floating around. send ICARUS emails people, let them know you want a sporty yet square ws canopy. I've been trying to get one of my own for a while now. ill be more than happy to fork over 2000 for one...my $300 sabers with "less than 500 jumps" tend to blow or need a line set asap. been through a few of those. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FB1609 0 #29 October 20, 2014 epicene? what a dumb name Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OuttaBounZ 0 #30 October 20, 2014 FB1609epicene? what a dumb name Its a great name. It has both BASE and Skydive genitalia. I'm hard just thinking about it.Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hjumper33 0 #31 October 22, 2014 Should have mine in a couple weeks. My container fits a 120 max and my sabre 120 is a bit small for gigantic suits. I can make it work, but the opening is the scariest part of the jump for sure, and I look forward to making that change. I agree that theres nothing wrong with a sabre 1, and this is definitely a niche canopy, but Im in that niche. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strife 0 #32 October 23, 2014 What size did you end up ordering if you don't mind asking keen to see what size containers these fit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dqpacker 7 #33 October 23, 2014 flipwithit icarus is deveoloping a 5 cell cross braced canopy for wingsuting and I've been trying to get my hands on one. i know there is a demo floating around. send ICARUS emails people, let them know you want a sporty yet square ws canopy. I've been trying to get one of my own for a while now. ill be more than happy to fork over 2000 for one...my $300 sabers with "less than 500 jumps" tend to blow or need a line set asap. been through a few of those. are you thinking of the Matrix 2? that is a 5cell cross braced canopy for crw. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flipwithit 0 #34 October 23, 2014 Definitely not :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dqpacker 7 #35 October 23, 2014 flipwithitDefinitely not :) right on. always cool to hear of new xbraced stuff coming out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hjumper33 0 #36 October 23, 2014 I got a 150, should fit nicely into my container for a 120. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voilsb 1 #37 October 24, 2014 flipwithiticarus is deveoloping a 5 cell cross braced canopy for wingsuting and I've been trying to get my hands on one. i know there is a demo floating around. send ICARUS emails people, let them know you want a sporty yet square ws canopy. I've been trying to get one of my own for a while now. ill be more than happy to fork over 2000 for one...my $300 sabers with "less than 500 jumps" tend to blow or need a line set asap. been through a few of those.I think it's actually NZ Aerosports' Matrix 2 you're thinking of. I contacted them a little over a year ago and they said they were starting to test a version of it for wingsuits.Brian Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flipwithit 0 #38 October 24, 2014 The 2 prototypes that are out floating around northern California might take some cues from the matrix but all I can say is that they are very much considering further development of those prototypes if enough interest is generated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slater 0 #39 October 24, 2014 flipwithitThe 2 prototypes that are out floating around northern California might take some cues from the matrix but all I can say is that they are very much considering further development of those prototypes if enough interest is generated. I hear x-brace have opening character not good for wingsuit or BASE, yes? Is true or not? SlaterMcConkey es Dios Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flipwithit 0 #40 October 24, 2014 Most xbrace canopies (jvx, jfx, velo, xaos, etc) are a high performance design and the cross bracing makes a more rigid wing so it can be loaded higher. This 5 cell xbrace is very square (think sabre 1 square) so it won't have the tendency to take off like an elliptical but can be loaded higher and still fun to fly! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voilsb 1 #41 October 24, 2014 flipwithitall I can say is that they are very much considering further development of those prototypes if enough interest is generated.Good to hear. I should email them some more then.Brian Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #42 October 24, 2014 Slater***The 2 prototypes that are out floating around northern California might take some cues from the matrix but all I can say is that they are very much considering further development of those prototypes if enough interest is generated. I hear x-brace have opening character not good for wingsuit or BASE, yes? Is true or not? Slater Opening characteristics are most likely determined by planform, not bracing.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keithbar 1 #43 October 24, 2014 hjumper33I got a 150, should fit nicely into my container for a 120. I'm quite surprised to hear a cross braced packs up smaller then a non cross braced but I guess it's 5 cell versus 9 cell is that right?i have on occasion been accused of pulling low . My response. Naw I wasn't low I'm just such a big guy I look closer than I really am . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bealio 0 #44 October 24, 2014 QuoteI'm quite surprised to hear a cross braced packs up smaller then a non cross braced but I guess it's 5 cell versus 9 cell is that right? He's replacing his Sabre1 120 (9 cell) with an Epicene 150 (7 cell). None are crossbraced. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keithbar 1 #45 October 24, 2014 Oops my bad. but I am curious to know how large this crossbraced 5 cell would pack. I wonder if that is why icarus went with a 5 cell rather than a 7 cell. Strictly to reduce the pack volume ? i have on occasion been accused of pulling low . My response. Naw I wasn't low I'm just such a big guy I look closer than I really am . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hjumper33 0 #46 October 25, 2014 I think the use of ultralight material in all these canopies is the most important part to the pack volume. Its been almost a whole week since my order was officially placed so im a little disappointed in squirrels turnaround time. I might have to wait another 2-3 weeks!!! Bullshit Beal, dont you have a war you should be fighting? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bealio 0 #47 October 26, 2014 Don't you have some ebola to fight? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottyBob 0 #48 October 26, 2014 He's too busy removing things from anal cavities Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #49 October 26, 2014 keithbar Oops my bad. but I am curious to know how large this crossbraced 5 cell would pack. I wonder if that is why icarus went with a 5 cell rather than a 7 cell. Strictly to reduce the pack volume ? "7/21 cell" cross braced flies like a 9 cell, but less drag from lines. I guess "5/15 cell" would fly like a 7 cell. Someone also stated that would be a low aspect ratio platform which also could be better for openings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hjumper33 0 #50 October 26, 2014 ScottyBobHe's too busy removing things from anal cavities I keep telling you not to let dudes but stuff up there, but you never learn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
