Anachronist 2 #1 February 11, 2017 DISCLAIMERS: because drama. 1 - This is just neat to look at and I'm glad someone is spending some money to actually quantify this stuff. 2 - No the experimental technique is not perfect, but is well beyond anything anyone else is doing. 3 - Yes SQ did this (so it is very BASE/Snatch focused), but they seemed fair in saying that no strong conclusions could be made about some things and packing being most important about others and more testing needed for some topics. 4 - No I don't have a Snatch (or SkySnatch), and no I don't want one. Ok so here ya go... Because someone from or close to SQ will probably see this at some point... 1- It would be nice to see some figures and p values (I don't really care what you think alpha should be, just give us the raw output). 2- Maybe go a step farther for us skydivers and put a dummy d-bag in a rig to see what happens out to line stretch. 3- Turbulence is good, no one is pitching into laminar flow. 4- Thanks for giving me some interesting and entertaining reading and spending some money to actually quantify some of this stuff empirically. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hjumper33 0 #2 February 12, 2017 hopefully this stays brand free, because I agree this was a nice write up, but the video I think is my favorite. The reverse handle pc specifically is intriguing. For some reason on a gutteral level it just seems wrong to me, but it looks pretty darn clean in practice. Did seeing slow mo video make anyone reconsider their practice? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #3 February 12, 2017 Interesting stuff.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
photognat 0 #4 February 12, 2017 It looks like that may fix the bad PC "flick" that you can see on most low speed PC deployments since the flick instead makes the top of the PC extend and deploy normally. For terminal stuff I'd tried Matt's S-fold technique and found the same thing his video showed, that the wind would catch the bridle and pull it out into a U even with a very strong & fast pull. Nice to see the shout about Yaru's bridle pocket. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluhdow 31 #5 February 14, 2017 My takeaway was that no PC is clever enough to correct for bad technique. In skydiving I definitely feel that the complex PC designs are a solution in search of a problem. The discussion is more interesting in BASE, but I think the jury is still out as to whether or not the juice is worth the squeeze here.Apex BASE #1816 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anachronist 2 #6 February 15, 2017 Agreed, a good strong throw is a solid 80% of the whole deal. Would really like to see some stuff with d-bags though, might help clarify the whole stow/stowless, single/double stow, and is more "snatch" really better? questions for skydiving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorkitup 1 #7 February 17, 2017 photognat Nice to see the shout about Yaru's bridle pocket. Sweet. When did he come out with it? I know morpheus offered it 13-15 years ago. I had always thought it was a Rob Jones creation. Learn something new every day... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
photognat 0 #8 February 17, 2017 He's been jumping/experimenting with it around 3 years IIRC. I haven't seen it on any other rigs but it may very well be borrowed from Rob. Now that they've got a wind tunnel I'm sure Sqrl will be testing alternate configurations thoroughly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites