leroydb 0 #1 March 22, 2004 BJ260, vented, ZP TS 10 - 14 days to completion, plus delivery what do you think of the colors? edit to add: it has black linesLeroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #2 March 22, 2004 Looks pretty good. For packing ease, the center stabilizer should be a different color from the rest...but have you considered varying the stabilizer color? I bet that would look bad ass with all black stabilizers, but a blue center stabilizer. Wouldn't hurt the stealth factor, either. It's all about looking good on video, baby! edit to add: Black lines would look good on that color combination, too.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #3 March 22, 2004 this is one already into production and almost done..Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #4 March 23, 2004 its official, I sent the money out today!!!Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #5 March 23, 2004 Congrats ... but is CR able to make a canopy in 14 days? Dang ... I ordered a canopy + container from BR and it's taking considerably longer. But I sit here patiently waiting for it's arrival (sometime in mid-April if I'm not mistaken). By the way, mine will be RED-RED-RED-BLACK-RED-RED-RED with BLACK stablizers and BLACK lines (I'm assuming the control lines will be RED) and the container will be RED with BLACK tie-die blotches. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #6 March 24, 2004 naw not 14 days... I just lucked out. it was a stock canopy, and near completion; i just happend to like th colors and importantly it fit my needs...Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whatever 0 #7 March 24, 2004 my Blackjack was a stock canopy too and it's almost those exact colours, except the blues are all the same and the centre cell rib is a different colour, as Tom suggested in his post it does look bad-ass with black lines... I have a pic at home that I can post later if you want a little preview take it easy sam soon to be gone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #8 March 24, 2004 I have the same colors on my Black Jack 240. I looked up the canopy you're getting. It's coming with ZP "foreskin", and black lines. It's very nice! I'm glad to hear that you opted for the 260 rather than the 240. Enjoy and Good luck! TimMy grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #9 March 24, 2004 hell yea post it pleaseLeroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #10 March 24, 2004 yea talked to alto of people abotu it... I am in that iffy weight range... decided to play it safe.... rather live to jump another dayLeroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whatever 0 #11 March 25, 2004 there you go, that's what my Blackjack looks like in action soon to be gone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jalisco 0 #12 March 25, 2004 how visible is the blue at night? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicknitro71 0 #13 March 25, 2004 CR does not make the canopy. PD does. I have an ACE 240 with composite upper: SIL SIL SIL BBR SIL SIL SIL with back stab. Overall I'm impressed with the quality of the construction.Memento Audere Semper 903 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mickknutson 0 #14 March 25, 2004 Quotehow visible is the blue at night? Years ago I was told a saying by an old jumper: "If someone sees your canopy, you did something else far earlier that got you busted!" Meaning, your canopy colors have less to do with you getting seen, than the preperation you need to do before the canopy is even open. Just thought I would add that saying as it reminded me of the old days.Mick Knutson * BLiNC Magazine "Everything you ever wanted to know about Parachuting, but didn't know whom to ask." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whatever 0 #15 March 26, 2004 Quotehow visible is the blue at night? honestly, I don't know yet. I haven't gotten it out at night yet. as a very lowtime jumper I've been fortunate enough to have had the opportunities to do all my jumps so far in the daytime so, what Mick said, I think the colour of your canopy and gear/clothing is far less of a factor in your stealth than your planning and behaviour and on the subject of night-time stealth and colours, I've heard (and it's been my practical experience too) that black is not the best colour to minimise visibility at night, grey is. the reason for this is that unless you're in zero light conditions (which doesn't sound like the kind of conditions that anyone would want to jump in), black is darker than the general backgound and stands out more than a light-to-medium shade of grey does... anyone have any info/comments on this? (edited for my dumbass spelling) soon to be gone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base428 1 #16 March 26, 2004 You'll hear a canopy LONG before you'll see it.(c)2010 Vertical Visions. No unauthorized duplication permitted. <==For the media only Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whatever 0 #17 March 26, 2004 feeling pretty stupid for not mentioning that now I'm still in the sensory overload phase and I've only very recently started hearing my own openings or being consciously aware of the amount of noise I and those jumping with me make. soon to be gone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mickknutson 0 #18 March 26, 2004 When I got my first canopy from Adam, I was told that the most stealthy colors where grey and midnight blue. Solid (all cells) colors stand out more than broken up colors. And Black is just too dark for most night time jumps.Mick Knutson * BLiNC Magazine "Everything you ever wanted to know about Parachuting, but didn't know whom to ask." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #19 March 26, 2004 I agree... grey is the best... just look at special forces halo canopies....Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jalisco 0 #20 March 26, 2004 My current canopy is gray. In my own very limited experience, I've spent what seems like a little more time with my canopy exposed on the ground than in the air -- especially given the fact that people don't typically look up particularly when they're, say, driving -- so I'm feeling like something that melts into the shadows well is a good plan. Oh, and groundwork of course. My own very limited experience is that by doing your groundwork you can be marginally confident of stealth during your 10 sec canopy ride, but maybe while you're stuffing your canopy in the bag some car comes around the corner and you have to duck... Maybe this is just a condition of my minimal experience level and the couple of places I happen to have jumped so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #21 March 27, 2004 QuoteAnd Black is just too dark for most night time jumps. why is that? you mean that theres a bigger chance to see the siullete at the sky or what? I use a Black canopy,whith a purple center cell and stabilazors,white and red lines.. What you see omst at it when its open is the vents..(do they make them black?? mine are white,which aint stealth at all..). Just an quick add,as said before,the first thing notice is the crack as the canopy opens,that will always be noisy and bring attention,its up to you to smoke it low,so you minimize the time in the air were you can be spotted,oh.. and a cleaver aussi once said"its under the canopy people gets hurt,so its about minimize that time"(might not word correct but like that),sounds like the right attitude to me Stay safe Stefan Faber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mickknutson 0 #22 March 29, 2004 QuoteQuoteAnd Black is just too dark for most night time jumps. why is that? you mean that theres a bigger chance to see the siullete at the sky or what? I use a Black canopy,whith a purple center cell and stabilazors,white and red lines.. What you see omst at it when its open is the vents..(do they make them black?? mine are white,which aint stealth at all..). Just an quick add,as said before,the first thing notice is the crack as the canopy opens,that will always be noisy and bring attention,its up to you to smoke it low,so you minimize the time in the air were you can be spotted,oh.. and a cleaver aussi once said"its under the canopy people gets hurt,so its about minimize that time"(might not word correct but like that),sounds like the right attitude to me The black with purple is still broken up colors. Althought alternating cells is just better. Yes, the larger the target (3-7 black canopy cells), is easier to see against a dark blue night sky. Grey is just closer to that color.Mick Knutson * BLiNC Magazine "Everything you ever wanted to know about Parachuting, but didn't know whom to ask." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #23 April 7, 2004 argh... what happened to 9 days to completion? I am trying to force myself not to be anxious, and just relax.....Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #24 April 14, 2004 ITS HERE AND ALL HOOKED UP ... NOW only if the weather would cooperateLeroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManBird 0 #25 April 14, 2004 What would you say is the best color scheme for packing? All my shit's red and black, so the colors are decided. I'm concerned more with packing right than getting busted or looking good."¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
