PC throw and go techniques

[leroydb 0]

thanks for posting that

Leroy


..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio...

[leroydb 0]

I think you are taking me all wrong. I am not learning on my own here, I am just searching for more info/different info. I am just posting to see what others have to say. Please dont make this just like the BASE board where some are afraid to ask anything.

Leroy


..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio...

[leroydb 0]

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Dude, i also ask Q´s all the time,but not really public.

Why wouldn't you ask a question in public? It is better to ask and LIVE than not ask and DIE...

Leroy


..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio...

[Rauk 0]

I ask a lot of questions as well, but most of the time choose to ask in private, you get an answer either way, right?

[TomAiello 26]

You get more answers in public. Plus, you get to cross check a variety of answer's against each other, and hear people discuss the pros and cons of each one.

The whole purpose of this forum is to exchange information. What's the point of having it if the first time someone asks a question we all tell them to go ask somewhere private?

-- Tom Aiello

Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com
SnakeRiverBASE.com

[Rauk 0]

I'm not knocking asking in public, the forums are great, and yes we all learn a lot, I was just saying a lot of the time I will ask the people I talk to day to day.

[JesseP 0]

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The only time I'm holding exclusively mesh is when I do very low freefalls (sub 160') on a specialized setup (non-standard gear).

Hi Tom,

Can you elaborate on this at all, particularly what your special setup is and how many times you have freefallen below 160' (over ground, water etc).

Thanks.

[TomAiello 26]

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Can you elaborate on this at all, particularly what your special setup is and how many times you have freefallen below 160' (over ground, water etc).

Nope. It requires modified gear that most people don't have, and that would be dangerous to make "standard" BASE jumps with. And the technique is (in my opinion) inferior to the "throwing up" method if using standard gear. Hence, I'd rather not discuss it in an open forum.

-- Tom Aiello

Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com
SnakeRiverBASE.com

[BASE813 0]

easy now.......... due to Fabers foreign tongue he sometimes has a tone you cant really understand - its not his fault he is a dirty pink hat wearing dane!

To be honest I find your tone unpleasant alot of the time - but as I dont know you I dont make assumptions on how or what you are saying.............

I think what Faber is saying (correct me if im wrong faber) is that why would someone think that rubber banding the bridle is ok to do when they jump - this would be seen as a fundamental error and not one expected from someone that is going out making jumps..............

At the moment there are lots of people getting into BASE and the access is very easy - but does this also mean that the knowledge of people getting into it is dangerously lacking?

Dont be hard on the Dane - its just his way of showing concern about your safety!........ what exactly do you want? sugar coated cotton wool wrapped advice? Dont be so senstive......... If I say something stupid I would expect to get shit for it........ but I dont take it personally......... chill winston!

I have to admit I thought "what the fuck?" when I saw your post - its a fundamental lack of knowledge from someone that jumps - so you should be able to see the surprise................

be safe

[BASE813 0]

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I have some video of me freefalling 210 using the "throw-up" technique. I'll post some stills later.

what a waste of freefalling time!!

........ah! your not injured!!

[base311 0]

hey is that darkstar?

gardner

[Faber 0]

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You get more answers in public.

most times;o) sometime you dont get answers at all;o),how ever i found out the people tend to tell more back ground as you speak in private,that helps me to understand better...

Leroy,im just concerned for you as on your posts it looks like your all alone.. im happy if your not..

Stay safe
Stefan Faber

[Zennie 0]

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hey is that darkstar?

Nope. Welshman's

(Hoping this is cryptic enough not to run afoul of naming guidelines)

- Z
"Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

[Faber 0]

what you said mate,besides its you that wear a pink hat,or is it Moe s private now

as said im concerned if a jumper post as Leroy,i dont know the guy but heres why my alarm bells ring(rember i did loads,and still does mistakes,theres no reasson to make it harder than it is):

1Asking for people to jump whith,in HIS local area

2.already sounds like he like the solo thing(no bad in that,but it aint safe and he has better ways to go)

3. asking a Q that to me seems cracy,even as he does loads of wingsuit skydives and should specialy know why the need of a longer bridel...

Sorry Leroy but breaking bones aint fun at all,doing them solo aint fun and neither cool. Honestly i thourght i would die of my open fractura as i layed in the feild in 2 hours before some one reached me,THAT i dont which for any,and that is why you might read my coments abit agressive.It aint personal,but i really care of peope out there.

enough said,hope we meet one day Leroy, then you will see that i can only harm thouse who
1 hurt my loved once
2.doing stuff on my gear that i dont like
3thouse who drink the last beer

Stay safe
Stefan Faber

[base689 0]

> To be honest I find your tone unpleasant alot of the time...
I would like to share my little thought about the matter. And what I am saying next is generally applicable to any low timer, in which category falls in this case our friend leroydb. And, please, I mean no offense to leroydb nor to any other low timer.

BASE is quite a new sport, yes. But, besides being relatively a NEW sport, there are indeed techniques that are used in 95% of BASE jumps and that are quite well consolidated, being the result of "best practice", developed in about 20 years (at least).
Any single small, and perhaps stupid thing/equipment/technique/whatever used in the above 95% of BASE jumps is the result of years and years of practise, often paid with tears, sometimes the result of successive trials and attempts.
At the same time I can understand that a BASE low timer, thinking about himself being quite smart, looking at the above thing/equipment/technique/whatever, comes out with: What can't we do this? Why can't we do that?
NO CHANCE!!!!!!!! NO WAY!!!!!!
In 95% of BASE jumps (among which sort of jumps fall, I hope, the jumps made by a low timer) there is NO reason to deviate from "best practice".
If something is not in use, it DOES NOT mean that no other smart @ss in our sport has NEVER thought/experimented with it.
Rather, I would tend to think that some really (and true) smart @ss in our sport (as Adam, Todd, Anne, Robert, Mark H, ...) has ALREADY thought and played and tried about it, but he discarded the idea for some negative (=negative in BASE means deadly) side effect.
Which negative side effect of the "new thing" could be no so evident the young new wonder of the sport, so popping out with new brilliant ideas.
My little 0.02€: there is no such a brilliant idea to be introduced in BASE that is thought by a low timer after 5 minutes of reasoning about the matter.
Sorry, I do not want to be offensive, but I try to be realistic.
Q: So in BASE cannot be introduced new things/techniques?
A: Yes, they can, but not from a low timer after 5 minutes of thinking. Unless this low timer is a genius. I know very, very few geniuses.

The magic new wonder of the sport (no offence, really, just to make things clearer) should give a thought about his "new fantastic idea", calm down for few seconds and thinking that, possibly, if nobody has come to this conclusion after 20 years of story (and practice) of BASE, the reason is that there are some negative side issued that are not always so evident.
It takes a bright mind (not necessarily belonging to an old timer) to come out with something new that has positive effects.
It takes a bright mind and a lot of experience (that nearly an old timer can have) to pick up the negative and dangerous sides of the new idea.
To end up this post of mine: if the new wonder comes out with an idea and gets a little bit of flaming, it is NOT because because we do not like him, but perhaps because we (old and new timers) are not so stupid or lazy to have never thought about it.
If it's not been done yet, there must be some really good (=dangerous side effect) reasons behind.
Just my 0.02€.

Stay safe out there
Blue Skies and Soft Walls
BASE #689 - base_689AT_NO_123_SPAMyahoo.com