CanuckInUSA 0 #26 July 20, 2004 I don't want to flame you either, but I witnessed plenty of carnage at the Perrine Bridge over the Memorial Day long weekend this year. And this span in Twin Falls ID is considered one of the safer BASE jumps you can make. Yet plenty of people had to visit the hospital on that dark Sunday afternoon. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinkster 0 #27 July 20, 2004 Quote sounds more like a dumb act than an bad ass act to me.. I was being sarcastic. That's why the "" I'm jumping because I want to experience it and I feel that the risk is worth it especially since I can land in the water if necessary. Edit: But I'm going to follow the advice and get more landing practices in. Zennie, I'll see if I can find a big enough container, and at least do a few hop-n-pops every weekend between now and then shooting for accuracy and crosswind and other canopy drills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motherhucker 0 #28 July 21, 2004 QuoteIt's better bragging rights to make the jump with less skydives. (less skydives = more badass) Actually, I'm planning do to it once because of the large risk increase involved with doing it over and over again at my experience level. BASE is pretty f*cking dangerous. I realize that, but I also believe that more skydives will only help me a small amount UNLESS I jump a canopy that is just like what I would be jumping off the bridge. No pun intended, but you're dead wrong. Canopy time is about learning how to use good judgement to keep yourself unbroken. HP canopy time does this too. That said, you also need to practice skydiving a BASE canopy or something similar (200sf+ F-111 7 cell) You have a MUCH higher chance of hurting yourself on your first BASE jump than on your 100th BASE jump. QuoteWould I be wrong in saying that hp skydiving canopy time is like driving a dump truck to prepare for a formula 1 race? (or vice versa) Not if you're 16 yrs old and don't have much driving experience to back that up...think baby steps. QuoteSince I'm not willing to buy a new canopy just for one BASE jump where I can take a water landing, I'm not going to bother. I'm current again and now feel confident about the bridge after making a couple skydives. If I was to keep BASE jumping right after bridge day I would agree with you though. I get it. this is a troll right? If not, I think your ideas about currency and competency under a parachute need to be re-examined. If you want to be more badass, please go tarnish a sport that's not already under the microscope of scrutiny like BASE is. When will people get it? BASE is not about being badass. If that's why you're doing it it's for the wrong reasons. Try to remember these two things: 1. This ain't skydiving., and 2. Surviving it once, or even ten times, isn't a sign of competency, but rather a stroke of luck. $0.02 mh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinkster 0 #29 July 21, 2004 I'm not doing this to be 'badass'. What I said earlier was meant to be a joke poking fun at the idea. I'll keep my mouth shut next time. Lesson learned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Treejumps 0 #30 July 21, 2004 You should note that Bridge Day has seen hundreds of 1000+ jump skygods, many of whom have pounded in, been carried out, or landed wet only becasue they completely missed the landing area. With your experience (nil) you should PLAN on a water landing, and HOPE that you can hit the river, maybe even near the edge. Even if you can hit a 10 metre pea pit 10 out of ten times that does not mean you will perform well under the pressure of jumping in a very hostile environment. By all means make the jump. Try not to pitch on your back and then land in the water. You will have just as much a rush from that jump as you would from during a jump where you try to hit the LZ and berak your ankle. Cya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinkster 0 #31 July 21, 2004 I totally agree with this: QuoteEven if you can hit a 10 metre pea pit 10 out of ten times that does not mean you will perform well under the pressure of jumping in a very hostile environment. But speculating on past performance: my first jump was AFF, stood up landing. Graduated 5 jumps later, 1 under the normal minimum. DZO saw video of my 7th jump said I looked as in control as people with 100+ belly jumps. I was scared shitless (right before jumping as always), but able to perform through it. Do I think this is brag worthy and that I'm the shiznit? No. Is it any indication of how I will do on my first BASE jump? Who knows, but I'm banking on it. Yet, like Treejumps says, how can one know until they do it? I didn't know how I would perform skydiving until I did it. Too big an experience to predict your own behavior. BASE will probably be 1000x more intense, but that's why I want to do it. I want to know. I'm sure I won't be the only 'gnostic' jumper there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fundgh 0 #32 July 21, 2004 QuoteBridge Day has seen hundreds of 1000+ jump skygods, many of whom have pounded in, been carried out, or landed wet only becasue they completely missed the landing area How many 1 jump wonders have jumped there over the years and been carried or landed safely and never jumped again?...FUN FOR ALL! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites leroydb 0 #33 July 22, 2004 better wet than dead or hurt...Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites b1jercat 0 #34 July 22, 2004 Hey I'm right there too. I have a slot for bridge day and I made two jumps on a tri 260 this weekend and I'm thinking maybe something a little bigger. I plan on makeing my first base jump at bridge day. As near as I can tell base is not like skydiveing, base landings is where the rubber meets the road. I'll keep you posted. blues jerry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zennie 0 #35 July 22, 2004 Quotebase landings is where the rubber meets the road Heh, actually BASE landings are where the knees meet the gravel (and mud, and rocks, and water and cow poop). - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites b1jercat 0 #36 July 22, 2004 Except in Eugene, make that sheep dip. blues jerry edi for sp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites leroydb 0 #37 July 22, 2004 why not try to make a few jumps prior?Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites b1jercat 0 #38 July 22, 2004 Soon, gotta get some gear togeather, just odered a new infinity, so I have cash flow problems for the next monuth or so. blues jerry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Faber 0 #39 July 22, 2004 sorry but you ask for this Quotespeculating on past performance: my first jump was AFF, stood up landing. Graduated 5 jumps later, 1 under the normal minimum. DZO saw video of my 7th jump said I looked as in control as people with 100+ belly jumps. I was scared shitless (right before jumping as always), but able to perform through it. perhaps your a skygood jumping out of planes,but if you aint a BASEgood that wont help you shit if somthing goes wrong in BASE world.. QuoteI didn't know how I would perform skydiving until I did it. neither do you know BASE,just as the rest of us.. theres no difference.. Perhaps you preform as a BASEgood on your jumps at that place,perhaps you dont,what were telling you is that more canopy time will make it safer to you,making it a better you for you(and the rest at the place). Its simple care and not about flaming here.Its a fact that even experienced BASE canopy pilots can get hurt.So can you and i. Take all this as advise,BASE world is free,just keep it in mind that 1 jump is dangerus aswell. QuoteI won't be the only 'gnostic' jumper there. But at this point your one of thouse who said so,so giving you a hard time perhaps learn others aswell stay safe,have a nice jump and dont forget video on it Stay safe Stefan Faber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RhondaLea 4 #40 July 23, 2004 Early summer 1997. My living room. BASE video in the background. BASE 193, 416 and me. Topic of discussion: Bridge Day. Me: Maybe I'll jump this year. 416: Me: Kidding. Just kidding. 193: You could do that. Me: Really. I was kidding. 416: 193: No, really, you could do it. You just have to promise me you'll stay out of the landing area and land in the water. Me: So how 'bout those Mets. (No, I didn't really say that, but I did redirect the conversation. It was a joke. Just a joke.) 4 months later in Fayetteville, West Virginia, I became BASE 283's first student ever to be injured--taking a nanosecond delay from the curb of the Holiday Inn. Ruined my best pair of jeans and took a big chunk of meat out of my knee. Meanwhile, 416 was having none of it. He said, "You know more than I did when I started," and left me to the tender mercies of the first jump course. At least in theory. The whole thing was making him a nervous wreck. I'm pretty sure he figured that if I killed myself, everyone would blame it on him even though he had nothing to do with it. But in spite of his dubious attitude, he packed for me (you need to learn to pack for yourself, Jake) and did not leave my side until I left his at the exit point. But in the end, without 193 and 283, it never would have happened. I started skydiving in 1995 and then I took 1.5 years off to tag along as driver and gofer--you know, ground crew. By the time I got to Bridge Day 1997, I had all of 36 parachute jumps. (All but two or three on 7-cell canopies, which helped some). I made two jumps that year. The first was me alone, and it was pronounced perfect. Thereafter 416 made a jump with me. (At least he didn't go through my canopy. ) In 1998, I had more skydives, but still fewer than you do now. I made three jumps that year. A little head down on the first one, which generated some comment up top. ("Just like a woman.") But I got praise from Adam Filipino for the recovery, so I wasn't too fearful of making another jump. Reference has been made to deaths at NRGB. It's true, people have died there, but somewhere there is a list of who they were and how they did it--probably on rec.skydiving, back before dz.com existed. You can google for it, and you'll see that the circumstances just don't apply to you. Of course, you could still die if you're incredibly stupid or incredibly unlucky. On the other hand, if you have a little something over your head and you avoid the rocks, your chances are still pretty good. I was there the year BG took a field packed rig off the bridge in a bandit jump on Friday night. Everyone came back to the motel wondering what they were going to do with his baby daughter. He turned up later--wet indeed, and feeling pretty stupid--but otherwise none the worse for wear. So go, pay attention, have fun. And don't forget to look down before you look out. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TomAiello 26 #41 July 23, 2004 Quote...193 and 283,... 416... That'd be worth it, just for the company. 416 and 283 are a couple of my favorite guys. I've never had the good fortune to be in the same place with both of them at the same time.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #42 July 29, 2004 QuoteThe video he's referring to is the footage from last year's Bridge Day. And yep, every year you get lots of botched exits and horrifying gear. The veterans will know better than me, but I get the sense that the gear has improved from years past. More folks seem to be using dedicated BASE gear.... even if only for that jump. As far as watchability goes... it is about a 3-4 hour long video, so it's not something you'd probably want to watch in one sitting... but I thought it was put together very well. Hey even though I wasn't there I picked up a copy of this DVD and watched a good chunk of it last night (I'm at about 1:00 pm in the afternoon on the DVD with a couple more hours to go?). The format of the editing was not at all what I expected and after the first hour or so I was kind of left sitting there thinking ... wow this sure was a waste of money. But believe it or not, the format is now starting to grow on me. I mean after all the way the DVD is edited pretty much documents the event in an almost real time manner. It's not easy to keep track of everything and surely it isn't something to sit down for a long time and watch. But as I said the format is starting to grow on me. One day I might actually take notes so that I know where the good, the bad and the ugly jumps can be found with a quick search (Jeb's 2nd jump was sweet). Oh and to all those who are planning on making their first BASE jumps this year at the NRGB on Bridge Day, I would suggest either getting your hands on this DVD or Johnny Utah's Safety Day video. There is a lot of fucked up things with some of the jumps you'll see here that hopefully you'll learn a thing of two and maybe not repeat the mistakes which many have made before you. You will see: 1) Close to 1/2 of all the people who exit, exit unstable. 2) Close to 1/2 of all the people have poor canopy control (probably the same 1/2 who exited unstable). 3) The landing area isn't all that big. 4) Go for the water if you're unsure of your canopy control. 5) Bad shit can happen to experienced people, so it can happen to you too. Because I'm not finished with the DVD yet, the worst two jumps I've seen so far has been the line twist jump where the guy almost hits the rocks. I guess we need to learn to climb those line twists and never give up ... can you imagine if this guy made that jump in Moab? The other nasty jump is the aerials jump gone wrong (which one, there are so many of those) where the guy almost goes in. So who knows what other carnage still awaits me on this DVD. But as I said, initially I sat there thinking I had wasted my money. But now the format is starting to grow on me and I'm beginning to enjoy it. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MarkM 0 #43 July 29, 2004 Just got the BD 2003 DvD a couple days ago and watched it. I liked the format, it's sort of like you're at the bridge watching events as they happen from both the LZ and the bridge itself. One thing I did was when anyone had line twists I'd rewind and check out their rig. Seemed like most of the people who had them were using skydiving rigs and not base rigs. I was pretty shocked to see how awful most people were landing too. I guess most everyone was flying in brakes so they didn't have any flare left or is it that most just didn't know how to land a 7 cell canopy? My neighbors were probably wondering why I was yelling ouch every few minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zennie 0 #44 July 29, 2004 QuoteThe other nasty jump is the aerials jump gone wrong (which one, there are so many of those) where the guy almost goes in. Are talking about the two-way where both the guy and girl botched their aerials and overdelayed trying to get stable? - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zennie 0 #45 July 29, 2004 QuoteI was pretty shocked to see how awful most people were landing too. I guess most everyone was flying in brakes so they didn't have any flare left or is it that most just didn't know how to land a 7 cell canopy? I cratered pretty hard on my first landing. I was in pretty deep brakes shooting for the accuracy tuffet so ya I didn't have much flare. I also noticed a nasty rotor right off the LZ that was briefly robbing my canopy of lift. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #46 July 29, 2004 QuoteAre talking about the two-way where both the guy and girl botched their aerials and overdelayed trying to get stable? I'd have to watch it again (it's sometime around 12:00 pm if I'm not mistake) to see if it is a guy and a girl. But there is a two-way where some guy in a yellow top jumps initially doing a gainer. It looks like he over rotates and does two more gainers, but still over rotates and goes on his back, pulls and it looks like his canopy opens less than a second before he hits the water. The people editing the DVD made a point to show three different views of this jump in sequence with the last view from the ground being the most graphic showing how close the guy came to going in. Also the person he jumped with (a stable belly exit) seemed to suck it pretty low as well. I also seem to remember this jump happening not long on the DVD before Jeb does a really cool jump from the diving board. It's kind of a "this is not how to do aerials" and "this is how you do aerials" thing-a-ma-bob. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnischalke 0 #47 July 29, 2004 Hey Zennie, There's a yellow canopy that lands right after who I think is you. I am guessing it might be Brit? Anyway, it does some strange shit at about 15 ft. It looks almost like a reverse bowtie as the flare starts (centercell in the front dips in). You know what I am talking about? mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #48 July 29, 2004 QuoteAre talking about the two-way where both the guy and girl botched their aerials and overdelayed trying to get stable? I remember seeing Brit's first jump of the day and that she did a two-way with you? But this was NOT the jump I was referring to. I'm going to have to start taking notes of the good, bad and ugly jumps. There is a lot of all of the above that's for sure. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites brits17 0 #49 July 29, 2004 QuoteThere's a yellow canopy that lands right after who I think is you. I am guessing it might be Brit? Probably. If its toward the end of the video after our 2 way. I haven't watched it yet, I'd like to see that one. I do remember it was the only landing i didn't tiptoe in though, the winds were all swirly around the trees. _______________________ aerialkinetics.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites brits17 0 #50 July 29, 2004 QuoteI remember seeing Brit's first jump of the day and that she did a two-way with you? But this was NOT the jump I was referring to. I did a 2 way, not with Zennie though. Yeah, I was hardly doing aerials on my 2nd-4th base jumps, although it crossed my mind _______________________ aerialkinetics.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 0
fundgh 0 #32 July 21, 2004 QuoteBridge Day has seen hundreds of 1000+ jump skygods, many of whom have pounded in, been carried out, or landed wet only becasue they completely missed the landing area How many 1 jump wonders have jumped there over the years and been carried or landed safely and never jumped again?...FUN FOR ALL! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #33 July 22, 2004 better wet than dead or hurt...Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #34 July 22, 2004 Hey I'm right there too. I have a slot for bridge day and I made two jumps on a tri 260 this weekend and I'm thinking maybe something a little bigger. I plan on makeing my first base jump at bridge day. As near as I can tell base is not like skydiveing, base landings is where the rubber meets the road. I'll keep you posted. blues jerry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #35 July 22, 2004 Quotebase landings is where the rubber meets the road Heh, actually BASE landings are where the knees meet the gravel (and mud, and rocks, and water and cow poop). - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #36 July 22, 2004 Except in Eugene, make that sheep dip. blues jerry edi for sp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #37 July 22, 2004 why not try to make a few jumps prior?Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #38 July 22, 2004 Soon, gotta get some gear togeather, just odered a new infinity, so I have cash flow problems for the next monuth or so. blues jerry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #39 July 22, 2004 sorry but you ask for this Quotespeculating on past performance: my first jump was AFF, stood up landing. Graduated 5 jumps later, 1 under the normal minimum. DZO saw video of my 7th jump said I looked as in control as people with 100+ belly jumps. I was scared shitless (right before jumping as always), but able to perform through it. perhaps your a skygood jumping out of planes,but if you aint a BASEgood that wont help you shit if somthing goes wrong in BASE world.. QuoteI didn't know how I would perform skydiving until I did it. neither do you know BASE,just as the rest of us.. theres no difference.. Perhaps you preform as a BASEgood on your jumps at that place,perhaps you dont,what were telling you is that more canopy time will make it safer to you,making it a better you for you(and the rest at the place). Its simple care and not about flaming here.Its a fact that even experienced BASE canopy pilots can get hurt.So can you and i. Take all this as advise,BASE world is free,just keep it in mind that 1 jump is dangerus aswell. QuoteI won't be the only 'gnostic' jumper there. But at this point your one of thouse who said so,so giving you a hard time perhaps learn others aswell stay safe,have a nice jump and dont forget video on it Stay safe Stefan Faber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #40 July 23, 2004 Early summer 1997. My living room. BASE video in the background. BASE 193, 416 and me. Topic of discussion: Bridge Day. Me: Maybe I'll jump this year. 416: Me: Kidding. Just kidding. 193: You could do that. Me: Really. I was kidding. 416: 193: No, really, you could do it. You just have to promise me you'll stay out of the landing area and land in the water. Me: So how 'bout those Mets. (No, I didn't really say that, but I did redirect the conversation. It was a joke. Just a joke.) 4 months later in Fayetteville, West Virginia, I became BASE 283's first student ever to be injured--taking a nanosecond delay from the curb of the Holiday Inn. Ruined my best pair of jeans and took a big chunk of meat out of my knee. Meanwhile, 416 was having none of it. He said, "You know more than I did when I started," and left me to the tender mercies of the first jump course. At least in theory. The whole thing was making him a nervous wreck. I'm pretty sure he figured that if I killed myself, everyone would blame it on him even though he had nothing to do with it. But in spite of his dubious attitude, he packed for me (you need to learn to pack for yourself, Jake) and did not leave my side until I left his at the exit point. But in the end, without 193 and 283, it never would have happened. I started skydiving in 1995 and then I took 1.5 years off to tag along as driver and gofer--you know, ground crew. By the time I got to Bridge Day 1997, I had all of 36 parachute jumps. (All but two or three on 7-cell canopies, which helped some). I made two jumps that year. The first was me alone, and it was pronounced perfect. Thereafter 416 made a jump with me. (At least he didn't go through my canopy. ) In 1998, I had more skydives, but still fewer than you do now. I made three jumps that year. A little head down on the first one, which generated some comment up top. ("Just like a woman.") But I got praise from Adam Filipino for the recovery, so I wasn't too fearful of making another jump. Reference has been made to deaths at NRGB. It's true, people have died there, but somewhere there is a list of who they were and how they did it--probably on rec.skydiving, back before dz.com existed. You can google for it, and you'll see that the circumstances just don't apply to you. Of course, you could still die if you're incredibly stupid or incredibly unlucky. On the other hand, if you have a little something over your head and you avoid the rocks, your chances are still pretty good. I was there the year BG took a field packed rig off the bridge in a bandit jump on Friday night. Everyone came back to the motel wondering what they were going to do with his baby daughter. He turned up later--wet indeed, and feeling pretty stupid--but otherwise none the worse for wear. So go, pay attention, have fun. And don't forget to look down before you look out. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #41 July 23, 2004 Quote...193 and 283,... 416... That'd be worth it, just for the company. 416 and 283 are a couple of my favorite guys. I've never had the good fortune to be in the same place with both of them at the same time.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #42 July 29, 2004 QuoteThe video he's referring to is the footage from last year's Bridge Day. And yep, every year you get lots of botched exits and horrifying gear. The veterans will know better than me, but I get the sense that the gear has improved from years past. More folks seem to be using dedicated BASE gear.... even if only for that jump. As far as watchability goes... it is about a 3-4 hour long video, so it's not something you'd probably want to watch in one sitting... but I thought it was put together very well. Hey even though I wasn't there I picked up a copy of this DVD and watched a good chunk of it last night (I'm at about 1:00 pm in the afternoon on the DVD with a couple more hours to go?). The format of the editing was not at all what I expected and after the first hour or so I was kind of left sitting there thinking ... wow this sure was a waste of money. But believe it or not, the format is now starting to grow on me. I mean after all the way the DVD is edited pretty much documents the event in an almost real time manner. It's not easy to keep track of everything and surely it isn't something to sit down for a long time and watch. But as I said the format is starting to grow on me. One day I might actually take notes so that I know where the good, the bad and the ugly jumps can be found with a quick search (Jeb's 2nd jump was sweet). Oh and to all those who are planning on making their first BASE jumps this year at the NRGB on Bridge Day, I would suggest either getting your hands on this DVD or Johnny Utah's Safety Day video. There is a lot of fucked up things with some of the jumps you'll see here that hopefully you'll learn a thing of two and maybe not repeat the mistakes which many have made before you. You will see: 1) Close to 1/2 of all the people who exit, exit unstable. 2) Close to 1/2 of all the people have poor canopy control (probably the same 1/2 who exited unstable). 3) The landing area isn't all that big. 4) Go for the water if you're unsure of your canopy control. 5) Bad shit can happen to experienced people, so it can happen to you too. Because I'm not finished with the DVD yet, the worst two jumps I've seen so far has been the line twist jump where the guy almost hits the rocks. I guess we need to learn to climb those line twists and never give up ... can you imagine if this guy made that jump in Moab? The other nasty jump is the aerials jump gone wrong (which one, there are so many of those) where the guy almost goes in. So who knows what other carnage still awaits me on this DVD. But as I said, initially I sat there thinking I had wasted my money. But now the format is starting to grow on me and I'm beginning to enjoy it. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #43 July 29, 2004 Just got the BD 2003 DvD a couple days ago and watched it. I liked the format, it's sort of like you're at the bridge watching events as they happen from both the LZ and the bridge itself. One thing I did was when anyone had line twists I'd rewind and check out their rig. Seemed like most of the people who had them were using skydiving rigs and not base rigs. I was pretty shocked to see how awful most people were landing too. I guess most everyone was flying in brakes so they didn't have any flare left or is it that most just didn't know how to land a 7 cell canopy? My neighbors were probably wondering why I was yelling ouch every few minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #44 July 29, 2004 QuoteThe other nasty jump is the aerials jump gone wrong (which one, there are so many of those) where the guy almost goes in. Are talking about the two-way where both the guy and girl botched their aerials and overdelayed trying to get stable? - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #45 July 29, 2004 QuoteI was pretty shocked to see how awful most people were landing too. I guess most everyone was flying in brakes so they didn't have any flare left or is it that most just didn't know how to land a 7 cell canopy? I cratered pretty hard on my first landing. I was in pretty deep brakes shooting for the accuracy tuffet so ya I didn't have much flare. I also noticed a nasty rotor right off the LZ that was briefly robbing my canopy of lift. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #46 July 29, 2004 QuoteAre talking about the two-way where both the guy and girl botched their aerials and overdelayed trying to get stable? I'd have to watch it again (it's sometime around 12:00 pm if I'm not mistake) to see if it is a guy and a girl. But there is a two-way where some guy in a yellow top jumps initially doing a gainer. It looks like he over rotates and does two more gainers, but still over rotates and goes on his back, pulls and it looks like his canopy opens less than a second before he hits the water. The people editing the DVD made a point to show three different views of this jump in sequence with the last view from the ground being the most graphic showing how close the guy came to going in. Also the person he jumped with (a stable belly exit) seemed to suck it pretty low as well. I also seem to remember this jump happening not long on the DVD before Jeb does a really cool jump from the diving board. It's kind of a "this is not how to do aerials" and "this is how you do aerials" thing-a-ma-bob. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnischalke 0 #47 July 29, 2004 Hey Zennie, There's a yellow canopy that lands right after who I think is you. I am guessing it might be Brit? Anyway, it does some strange shit at about 15 ft. It looks almost like a reverse bowtie as the flare starts (centercell in the front dips in). You know what I am talking about? mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #48 July 29, 2004 QuoteAre talking about the two-way where both the guy and girl botched their aerials and overdelayed trying to get stable? I remember seeing Brit's first jump of the day and that she did a two-way with you? But this was NOT the jump I was referring to. I'm going to have to start taking notes of the good, bad and ugly jumps. There is a lot of all of the above that's for sure. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brits17 0 #49 July 29, 2004 QuoteThere's a yellow canopy that lands right after who I think is you. I am guessing it might be Brit? Probably. If its toward the end of the video after our 2 way. I haven't watched it yet, I'd like to see that one. I do remember it was the only landing i didn't tiptoe in though, the winds were all swirly around the trees. _______________________ aerialkinetics.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brits17 0 #50 July 29, 2004 QuoteI remember seeing Brit's first jump of the day and that she did a two-way with you? But this was NOT the jump I was referring to. I did a 2 way, not with Zennie though. Yeah, I was hardly doing aerials on my 2nd-4th base jumps, although it crossed my mind _______________________ aerialkinetics.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
