Cyco 0 #1 January 18, 2004 I am looking at a Birdman suit that a friend is getting rid of as he has given up jumping after 20 years in the sport. The problem is, the cutaway handles for the wings are missing and the former owner is overseas for a while. A rigger here in NZ said he can make them but needed to know if the handles are puds or loops. I am wanting to know any info or if I should just contact Birdman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gus 1 #2 January 18, 2004 QuoteA rigger here in NZ said he can make them but needed to know if the handles are puds or loops. They can be either, it's one of the options when you order a suit. I have loops. GusOutpatientsOnline.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #3 January 18, 2004 By and far, loops are the most widely used and requested. IMO,They are far easier to get your hand/fingers into in a jam."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #4 January 18, 2004 Yep, loops are the way to go. BASE guys are fond of making extra-large loops. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kimgriffin 0 #5 January 19, 2004 I also prefer loops. I have seen handles made incorrectly so that when the loop was pulled (on the ground) it came off the yellow cable. This would suck in a big way in freefall if you needed to get out of your wings and couldn't. If your rigger has any questions on how to make the WS cut away cables, have him email Robert (BM desinger) robert@bird-man.com or BM owner Jari, jari@bird-man.com BM can also ship handles either from Europe or the USA. They cost somewhere around $28 USD (not including shipping). It will be cheaper to have your rigger do them I would guess. Are the initials of the guy's suit you are buying S.M.? I look forward to flying in NZ some day! I'm sure it's spectacular.-Kimberly Griffin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManBird 0 #6 January 20, 2004 Don't use two cables. The basic idea is to take a cutaway cable that is double the length of the tabs, bend it, and put your handle on the elbow of the bend. Using two cables can result it attaching a handle that will slide right off. I think this is what Kim is talking about."¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vesatoro 0 #7 January 20, 2004 QuoteDon't use two cables. The basic idea is to take a cutaway cable that is double the length of the tabs, bend it, and put your handle on the elbow of the bend. Using two cables can result it attaching a handle that will slide right off. I think this is what Kim is talking about. No, as far as I know there was once a batch of one-cable handles where the cable was not properly attached to the loop. When pulled from the other cable end the whole cable slid away from the handle. Vesa "Fear is the path to the Dark side" (Master Yoda) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
