whatever 0 #1 January 11, 2005 so, there's a post in bonfire (I won't link it) that is getting a LOT of attention I think it should just be deleted and any attempt to repost too, followed by a warning, then a banning if the offender/s persist. The kind of post that shows BASE objects getting dayblazed and giving details of their whereabouts should not be tolerated. Let's make our voices heard and give the moderators and HH the mandate to deal with this kind of nonsense effectively. vote yes thanks sam soon to be gone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #2 January 11, 2005 On a privately owned board, free speech is not a constitutional right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whatever 0 #3 January 11, 2005 QuoteOn a privately owned board, free speech is not a constitutional right. I totally agree. looking at it now, I'm asking that everyone who votes, or have voted, in this poll, please post which way you voted and if you BASE jump or not I think this would be relevant, thanks. edited to add the obvious: I voted Yes and I do BASE jump. I still skydive too. soon to be gone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #4 January 11, 2005 Quoteso, there's a post in bonfire (I won't link it) that is getting a LOT of attention I will link it. It's here. I encourage anyone who cares to join that discussion (it's pegged to the top of the Bonfire anyway) and voice their opinion. Once it moves off the first page of the Bonfire (sometime this evening, I'd guess), it's probably better to just let it fade away. In answer to your question, I voted "yes" and I do BASE jump. The truth is that there are other issues (DZ.com community building, for example) that play into that kind of thing.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #5 January 11, 2005 I voted yes and I do BASE jump. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #6 January 11, 2005 Hey........this is my "Beer" post in the BASE Zone! Anyway......yeah....I was REALLY suprised that the post wasn't gone LONG ago. Especially after some of the conversations that went on when I met TomAiello the other night. Just seems like a really STUPID thing to have around here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #7 January 11, 2005 I voted yes and I don't BASE jump.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FIREFLYR 0 #8 January 11, 2005 I BASE and I vote,yes This Forum is meant to further our enjoyment of the sport not damage it,this forum is not a free of censorship if it was their wouldn't be a need for "NSFW" tags and you could post pictures of people Fucking sheep if you so chose to as well as any number of things our society (and society as a whole) deem un fit. The argument of The Jump in question not being illegal there for OK to post seems mistaken,in some parts of the world child pornography isn't necessarily "Illegal" and in the country most free from censorship it is illegal to view, because society agrees it shouldn't be shown. I don't believe the exploitation of our objects is fit for a public forum. fair enough? ~J"One flew East,and one flew West..............one flew over the cuckoo's nest" "There's absolutely no excuse for the way I'm about to act" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brits17 0 #9 January 11, 2005 Yes... I can't believe I politely stepped in yesterday to share my concern, and was slammed (with a reference to Tom Aiello) by someone who probably doesn't know any better. _______________________ aerialkinetics.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #10 January 11, 2005 QuoteI can't believe I politely stepped in yesterday to share my concern, and was slammed (with a reference to Tom Aiello) by someone who probably doesn't know any better. Honestly, the way that you (and some others) were slammed was the thing that most aroused my concern. Unfortunately, I've just set myself up to have to patrol yet another forum. I'm going to try to take out specific site references, but leave the thread intact, as I think it's valuable reading for skydivers who may not get into this forum, and hence don't have any understanding of BASE culture. I've appreciated the way that folks haven't let it degenerate into yelling at the skydivers. Many thanks to all for that. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #11 January 11, 2005 I saw that post and thought WTF is he doing?!?! But I think he is a non BASE jumper posting about an event that he got way stoked on. Has someone PMed him to let him know what's up? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #12 January 11, 2005 I voted yes.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #13 January 11, 2005 I voted yes, and I don't BASE. However, you have to be mighty careful when deleting posts in another forum. Bonfire is an area where people talk to their friends about random shit and they wouldn't necessarily immediately understand if posts about BASE jumps started getting deleted. Education is needed first, so folk understand why deletions happen. Tom: you might ask HH to set up an email notification for you if the word BASE appears in a forum other than The BASE Zone. Despite the unavoidable false positives, it should make patrolling other forums much easier for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #14 January 11, 2005 Tom, I'm having a laugh picturing you in your patrolman's uniform twirling your nightstick . . . NickD BASE 194 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vid666 0 #15 January 11, 2005 While it's nice to know about these things, I believe for the greater good knowledge is better kept hidden. Educating the "enemy" is not a necessary task. So yeah, i voted for deletion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #16 January 11, 2005 no BASE jumps yet, but that post and the discussion ongoing isnt doing anyone any real favors, beyond some basic education for 'wuffos' about ethics and legality... fyi tom you missed the reference that links to another post of his (jraf) that id's the site exactly... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #17 January 11, 2005 I voted Yes and I do not BASE jump.....yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #18 January 12, 2005 No BASE jumps, and did not vote. I'd go half way, much as Tom did. Delete everything that's BS and could be harmful (faces, names, sites, etc...), but otherwise let it go. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Girlfalldown 0 #19 January 12, 2005 I voted yes. -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pskychotic 0 #20 January 12, 2005 QuoteThe kind of post that shows BASE objects getting dayblazed and giving details of their whereabouts should not be tolerated. Agreed. I haven't BASE'd yet, but then it isn't a requirement for having common sense either. Burning sites is just uncool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #21 January 12, 2005 Voted Yes - no BASE jumps....yet._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZegeunerLeben 0 #22 January 12, 2005 >>I've stopped BASE'n for now, to take a path to it more conducive to a long and healthy life, but I started out on the "Burn It All" side of the fence. We had a "Who the hell makes up all these F'n rules?" attitude about BASE, and we just did what we wanted when we wanted to do it. Dare I say, we were arrogant. >>But then I started to see how my actions were affecting others (like almost getting hookitt busted), and I started to realize that our way was selfish. The objects started to become a part of who I am, and I realized that once they were gone they were gone. Things are different now, maybe it's part of the growth process, but I was really dismayed to see that the attitudes displayed in the other thread which really angered me now were once my own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #23 January 12, 2005 Quotefyi tom you missed the reference that links to another post of his (jraf) that id's the site exactly... I had read that as identifying a different building (one that had a fire in it), not the building he lives in.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #24 January 12, 2005 QuoteTom: you might ask HH to set up an email notification for you if the word BASE appears in a forum other than The BASE Zone. Despite the unavoidable false positives, it should make patrolling other forums much easier for you. I currently have a notification for classified ads including the word "BASE". The false positive rate is around 50%. I think I'd end up reading a lot of unrelated posts. My best warning system so far has been other people PMing me.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weegegirl 2 #25 January 12, 2005 I voted "Yes" and I'm just a kiiiiid when it comes to BASE. I was tempted to post my disgust in that thread, but opted not to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites