phil6086 0 #1 February 24, 2005 Did first jump last night. 2 way with hand held 4 sec delay. Awesome. Off heading opening 90deg to left countered with rear riser to correct. Nice crew two way landing . Now talk about fear at the exit point . More than life and death words cant describe the wall I went through.Was going to go stowed but on the edge opted for going hand held It was commented and I quote " best first base exit that was seen by my mentor, not head low at all. Solid 4 sec delay. No ground crew could be gathered cause everybody was wufos to busy to help. I do know this I went into a zone when the count reached 1 that skydivings never gave me. And to wrap this thread up the bridge became my bitch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #2 February 24, 2005 I'm not a BASE jumper (yet), but the numbers you give seem to me... 1st jump, 2 way, 4 sec. hand held. My idea is that they all don't mixe very well together. Anyways it worked out fine, so that's cool... But I wonder if anyone will have the same reaction than mine. BTW what altitude was the exit ??scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Treejumps 0 #3 February 24, 2005 Nice job. Way to go! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brits17 0 #4 February 24, 2005 handheld's a good option for your first jump, wise choice ... and did you say crw?! now thats crazy but uh, congrats! _______________________ aerialkinetics.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #5 February 24, 2005 Quotehandheld's a good option for your first jump, wise choice handheld ? OK 4 sec's handheld ?? scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fab777 0 #6 February 24, 2005 J'ai passé les 5" à la main pour mon 1er saut de falaise... Fabien BASE#944 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #7 February 24, 2005 QuoteJ'ai passé les 5" à la main pour mon 1er saut de falaise... does that make it more "recommendable" ?? specially on a 2 way ??scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BASE813 0 #8 February 24, 2005 am I the only one that thinks this whole situation sounds a bit fucked for a first jump? edit to add: from his report and the conclusions drawn from it.......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eb66to77 0 #9 February 24, 2005 Now BASE 813, you know what happened last time a new BASE jumper was criticized. You and I were in the dog house. You remember? Yeah you remember. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brits17 0 #10 February 24, 2005 QuoteJ'ai passé les 5" à la main pour mon 1er saut de falaise... Hey fabien hows it going? Ok, no more code talk... ingles por favor And how high was the bridge he speaks of? _______________________ aerialkinetics.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #11 February 24, 2005 this means he did a 5'' handheld for his 1st cliff jump. moreover the original poster mentionned he was going stowed, and then changed to handheld on exit.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phil6086 0 #12 February 24, 2005 Ok night before jump we were at ymca for 3 hours of practice exits into 8' pool 1/2 stowed 1/2 hand held. critique every exit with mentor holding with count then pitching from hand held and stowed. head up and slightly forward exits. When jump happened muscle memory was perfect. mind you my last 230 jumps are all sit fly with some of the best in my humble opinion free flyers in the world. so going stowed although not the norm could have been done but out of fear I couldn't do it. Doing a 2 way took a big edge off and made it easier to go with my mentor doin the count. Mind you there was never any pressure to jump only it was getting late and this was a sunset jump. I didn't want to do it at night being my first so for me being introduced into this the greatest sport ever my hat is off to my instructors for teaching me so well. In air was no fear only fear was the exit and that was more intense than even my first tandem or even going without jumping for 4 months winter of 2003 so I thank all who came before and made this possible for me. You've given me a gift the only way I'll ever be able to pay you trailblazers for is to be safe not to extreme follow directions but most of all go through every fear knowing that gods kids are meant to fly thats why we jump . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #13 February 24, 2005 Dude. In all seriousness, if your mentor put you off for a 2 way on your first jump, and even considered a stowed jump, you ought to go find someone else to help you. Your life is being put at risk in ways you probably don't understand yet. I'm really hoping that you have a ton of CRW jumps, so the idea of doing CRW on a BASE jump, at night, isn't as ridiculous as it sounds. But somehow I'm guessing...-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gabo 0 #14 February 24, 2005 Personally I think PCA from a bridge is the safest way for a new jumper , I have taught how to Base jump a few guys from my country , and I have done PCA´s on their first jumps and that has worked great. Mis 2 pesos . Gabo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fab777 0 #15 February 24, 2005 QuoteQuoteJ'ai passé les 5" à la main pour mon 1er saut de falaise... Hey fabien hows it going? Ok, no more code talk... ingles por favor And how high was the bridge he speaks of? Ooopss... Sorry, I won't do that again. Or... I've read on another thread that there's some whipping in progress by female base jumpers... Should I continue to be a bad boy? Fabien BASE#944 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #16 February 24, 2005 I am in agreeance here... I don't think this was the optimal jump configuration... Please ask around for the base mentors around here (not me) and I think they will agree... Le Roy woah... I said that?Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blu 0 #17 February 24, 2005 I have taught how to Base jump a few guys from my country *** I'm one of them ***Keep it fun, stay alive*** Safe swoops Azul Follow Orbita on Twitter @freeflyorbita Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #18 February 24, 2005 Quotethis means he did a 5'' handheld for his 1st cliff jump. That's not so bad, actually. I wouldn't recommend it for a 1st BASE jump, but a long handheld delay for a first cliff jump is (although not my favorite) definitely one of the options.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JaapSuter 0 #19 February 24, 2005 Quote"this means he did a 5'' handheld for his 1st cliff jump." ...but a long handheld delay for a first cliff jump is (although not my favorite) definitely one of the options. The other options being? A shorter delay but still handheld? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #20 February 24, 2005 QuoteThe other options being? A shorter delay but still handheld? It depends on the object available, and the jumpers terminal experience. I think my first choice would be someone with good terminal skills, going stowed and taking a delay over 10 seconds with a strong track, from a good (1000m or more) high cliff.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #21 February 25, 2005 Who'da thunk it, I think you and I were in a dinner party at Eva's near Eloy recently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piisfish 140 #22 February 25, 2005 QuoteQuotethis means he did a 5'' handheld for his 1st cliff jump. That's not so bad, actually. I wouldn't recommend it for a 1st BASE jump, but a long handheld delay for a first cliff jump is (although not my favorite) definitely one of the options. Once again I have ABSOLUTELY NO experience in the domain, but wouldnt you have a risk of premature deployment with a long handheld delay ?? While I type, thinking I already handheld my PC for various reasons in freefall, but the issues would certainly not be the same with a mono canopy system, close to an obstacle...scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TomAiello 26 #23 February 25, 2005 Quote...wouldnt you have a risk of premature deployment with a long handheld delay ?? Yes, if you are using a pin rig. That's a good reason to use a velcro rig for that kind of thing.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JaapSuter 0 #24 February 25, 2005 Quote"...wouldnt you have a risk of premature deployment with a long handheld delay?" Yes, if you are using a pin rig. That's a good reason to use a velcro rig for that kind of thing. Sorry to ask for more information again, but I don't quite see how a difference between pin or velcro causes different behaviour here. Perhaps the combination of the bridle being stowed differently (over the shoulder) and the pilot-chute inflating sooner (at a different location) is what you mean? Thanks, Jaap Suter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites blair700 0 #25 February 25, 2005 Flapping bridle is more apt to pluck the pin(s) loose than it is to shear off an entire velcro shrivel flap..... I think..... Make centz? Later Blair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 0
piisfish 140 #22 February 25, 2005 QuoteQuotethis means he did a 5'' handheld for his 1st cliff jump. That's not so bad, actually. I wouldn't recommend it for a 1st BASE jump, but a long handheld delay for a first cliff jump is (although not my favorite) definitely one of the options. Once again I have ABSOLUTELY NO experience in the domain, but wouldnt you have a risk of premature deployment with a long handheld delay ?? While I type, thinking I already handheld my PC for various reasons in freefall, but the issues would certainly not be the same with a mono canopy system, close to an obstacle...scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #23 February 25, 2005 Quote...wouldnt you have a risk of premature deployment with a long handheld delay ?? Yes, if you are using a pin rig. That's a good reason to use a velcro rig for that kind of thing.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JaapSuter 0 #24 February 25, 2005 Quote"...wouldnt you have a risk of premature deployment with a long handheld delay?" Yes, if you are using a pin rig. That's a good reason to use a velcro rig for that kind of thing. Sorry to ask for more information again, but I don't quite see how a difference between pin or velcro causes different behaviour here. Perhaps the combination of the bridle being stowed differently (over the shoulder) and the pilot-chute inflating sooner (at a different location) is what you mean? Thanks, Jaap Suter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blair700 0 #25 February 25, 2005 Flapping bridle is more apt to pluck the pin(s) loose than it is to shear off an entire velcro shrivel flap..... I think..... Make centz? Later Blair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
