Kinaa 0 #1 April 1, 2005 Simple question...(to say better, stupid) Where do you have more chance to clear the mal (like PC in tow, linetwists, ofheading, tension knots, lineovers...) Jumping slider down jumps, or slider up jumps? (I know that you can fuck up more jumping subterminal SU, but you have more time to deal with it,, and when jou have fuck up jumping SD there is practically no time) Or maybe to ask, where you would "like" to have any of that mal, jumping slider up altitudes, or slider down? My opinion is that any jump ends when you land your canopy, so it is not easy to say what jumps are more demanding... Thanks, Igor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #2 April 1, 2005 QuoteOr maybe to ask, where you would "like" to have any of that mal, jumping slider up altitudes, or slider down? Slider down. I've found that it's far easier to clear up line twists and the like without the slider wedged into the middle.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #3 April 1, 2005 QuoteSlider down. I've found that it's far easier to clear up line twists and the like without the slider wedged into the middle. i would say slider up. im sure many who get used to jump slider off often will be so low under canopy that they would land under line twist or other mishabs(well might not 1 line twist but more). perhaps i think like that as im sure if i jump slider up i will open whith in 3 secs just to make sure the canopy will open intime before impact Stay safe Stefan Faber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pBASEtobe 0 #4 April 1, 2005 I've been meaning to post and ask this for a while now so this would be a good thread to do it. What exactly is a mal in BASE? In skydiving I was always taught there were mals and there were problems. Mals you cut away, problems you could fix under canopy and land. This is a generalization because line twists were considered a problem. But it's possible to have severe lines twists and need to cutaway. So in BASE is anything wrong considered a mal? A blown and lost brake on a slider down opening, severe line twists (even if you kick out before landing)...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #5 April 1, 2005 QuoteWhat exactly is a mal in BASE? I don't think there is a clearly accepted definition.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #6 April 1, 2005 1 example: when you are looking at said object you JUST leftLeroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #7 April 1, 2005 Hi Russel, Keep in mind that BASE jumpers figured out long ago that many malfunctions that occurred in skydiving stem from the fact that skydiving rigs are complicated. A skydiving rig has to do more than one thing, and do them all well, and its very design is a compromise to that end. And even though I don't consider modern skydiving rigs complicated (because I remember when they really were) new skydivers who are more isolated from their gear, (then used to be) still have trouble operating them. The simplification of BASE equipment with the advent of the Velcro closed container caused the first big explosion in BASE growth. There were many skydivers in the early 1980s that tried a BASE jump or two, but stopped because while they realized BASE jumping was very cool, they were using the wrong gear to do it. We must be careful nowadays as we see Velcro rigs fall from fashion (not a bad thing, because we finally learned how to use pins and loops correctly) that we don't go too far in the opposite direction. That we forget the thing that made many of the early BASE jumps possible was simplicity . . . To more directly answer your question I think there are "only" malfunctions in BASE jumping. Of these there are total malfunctions and partial malfunctions. A total is not being able to find your pilot chute, a pilot chute not being connected to a canopy, a pilot chute that doesn't work, or static lines that parts before opening the container. Partial malfunctions are streamers and slider hang ups, line-overs, damaged canopies, pilot chutes over the nose, line twists, etc. We gained by making these things less likely to happen, but we lost, on what to do when they do. I don't know what BASE rigs will look like in twenty years. Could wing suit BASE jumpers be back to wearing dual canopy rigs with an AAD? (They could easily add "BASE" to a Vigil's line-up of modes). I guess my point is let's be careful as we get more advanced (read more complicated) as it will be the young among us that may suffer . . . NickD BASE 194 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FIREFLYR 0 #8 April 2, 2005 Quote1 example: when you are looking at said object you JUST left No that is an off heading opening. If you hit the object it still isn't a mal... ~J"One flew East,and one flew West..............one flew over the cuckoo's nest" "There's absolutely no excuse for the way I'm about to act" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #9 April 2, 2005 okLeroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #10 April 2, 2005 Having a BASE mal WILL kill you Having a BASE problem incresse the chance for getting you injuryed. Stay safe Stefan Faber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
