gazzoom 0 #1 May 23, 2005 Hi there, I am due to make some terminal jumps in Norway this year and have have made most of my 30 jumps in the 1-5 second delay range and never made any jumps where i have had to track. I plan to obviously practice on skydives etc, but i am looking for peoples thoughts on the most efficient sub terminal / terminal base tracking position. I don't plan at this point to be using tracking or smoking pants.......except from my baggy freefly pants. Any big wall jumpers that can give helpful advice, I would really appreciate. . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ BASE 1029 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie95 3 #2 May 23, 2005 Search function for terms "tracking" & "sub terminal tracking" here and also on blincmagazine.com. I also recommend you make some group track jumps and if you have $$ jumps with your local freefly instructor and get him to make you work JBASEstore.it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kinaa 0 #3 May 23, 2005 Knock yourself up! http://www.blincmagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21648&highlight=tracking http://www.blincmagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21624&highlight=tracking http://www.blincmagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22206&highlight=tracking http://www.blincmagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21501 http://www.blincmagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18156 http://www.blincmagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21636 http://www.blincmagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21407 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MickeN 0 #4 May 23, 2005 Put on your RW-suit and use those booties! Booties make a lot of difference, a good tracker with booties will by far outtrack a bad tracker with Pantz or smokepants. Freefly pants... well, you really need to be a good tracker if you want to get moving in those. Even though Kjerag is high and you get plenty of freefall, you DO want to get away from that wall. When it comes to technique it depends on what you're wearing. The classic "legs and arms together" will work with the RW-suit and booties. A wider arms and legs position is probably preferred if you use smoke pants. Nothing will really help if you jump a freeflysuit /Micke N Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #5 May 23, 2005 Quotea good tracker with booties will by far outtrack a bad tracker with Pantz or smokepants. Comparing a good tracker and a bad tracker is confusing tho. All things being equal, pantz > booties.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hecy68 0 #6 May 24, 2005 get some pants mate ...!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #7 May 24, 2005 Plenty of people that can teach you to track, not just your local freefly Instructor as some suggested. There are plenty of RW people that can teach you also. Doing some solo, 2 way or larger tracking skydives will definitly help you refine your body position and also let you find the best body position that works for your body structure, to achieve maximum performance. But it will not help you find the correct position for sub-terminal exits such as in Norway. Try getting ballon jumps or do a short trip to TF to get the sub-terminal exits down. Many people believe Kjerag is just like a 3000ft skydive......it's NOT. Be safe. Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #8 May 24, 2005 What Ed said... and when you're doing a 2 way track dive, track as fast as you can, not just relative to each other, really go for it.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DexterBase 1 #9 May 24, 2005 Spend some skydives in a max track. Go all-out. Just track your ass off the whole way and feel out what is working better. You can actually learn a lot in a couple days doing that. edit: in a couple days of tracking practice, I found I could easily smoke hookitt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MickeN 0 #10 May 24, 2005 Quote All things being equal, pantz > booties. Not really. I've done 200 jumps at Kjerag, 150 using booties. When I bought the Pantz I put 100 skydives on them before using them at Kjerag and they definitely did not get me any further. Then I put some small booties on the Pantz, almost closed the leg inlet, and put on a mini-wing (really small)... and they kicked ass! Almost took me to the grassy landing area So... no, the Pantz does not work better than booties as is, but with some minor modifications... Yes! /Micke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #11 May 24, 2005 I've been called out Ok Chad, we'll race sometime. My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mfnren 2 #12 May 24, 2005 One of my teachers told me when I could pass cars on the freeway, I could do a terminal jump. No one would ever guess someone is passing them 10,000' above them.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DexterBase 1 #13 May 24, 2005 oh man... I was just playing... hehe... okay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #14 May 24, 2005 QuoteOne of my teachers told me when I could pass cars on the freeway, I could do a terminal jump. No one would ever guess someone is passing them 10,000' above them.. Just rember only to pass them in one direction.. Stay safe Stefan Faber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie95 3 #15 May 24, 2005 QuoteMany people believe Kjerag is just like a 3000ft skydive......it's NOT. I didn't realise you were a BASE jumper also Ed.BASEstore.it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #16 May 24, 2005 Is it legal to jump the with skydiving rig? I know base rig would be better and safer there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #17 May 24, 2005 I dont believe there to be such a law, but you hit it on the head though, by saying it is safer to use a BASE rig. You could though use a Sorcerer, which uses 2 BASE mains.Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #18 May 24, 2005 What is the benefit to use that? I`d track away and open high like 700+m. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #19 May 24, 2005 QuoteWhat is the benefit to use that? I`d track away and open high like 700+m. possibly having to land in a tight landing area......... Kris. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaveO 0 #20 May 24, 2005 Let's not forget the affects of the overstuffed fanny pack thats like a lunch box strapped to your waste. I don't have very many terminal jumps but I could tell a difference when I jumped without it."When it comes to BASE, I'll never give advice, only my opinion" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #21 May 24, 2005 QuoteQuote All things being equal, pantz > booties. Not really. I've done 200 jumps at Kjerag, 150 using booties. When I bought the Pantz What kind of pantz are you referring to? I'm guessing by the spelling that you've got the Birdman ones? Truthfully, I'd say booties are probably better than those things. But a real pair of tracking pants (even home made) works way better for me than booties. I wonder if anyone has tried just the bottom of a prodigy yet?-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #22 May 24, 2005 QuoteQuoteMany people believe Kjerag is just like a 3000ft skydive......it's NOT. I didn't realise you were a BASE jumper also Ed. You don't have to be a BASE jumper to understand that basic truth. And it's to all of our advantage if experienced skydivers understand it as well, because when the young jumper at the DZ is wanting to take a trip there, he's way more likely to ask Ed about it than, say, me, because he knows Ed and sees him at the DZ all the time.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #23 May 24, 2005 You may already know this Tom, but I am pretty sure Ed BASE jumps also. I saw him wearing a BASE T-shirt at the Birdman Boogie in Dec 2004 and asked him. Kris. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #24 May 24, 2005 QuoteQuoteMany people believe Kjerag is just like a 3000ft skydive......it's NOT. I didn't realise you were a BASE jumper also Ed. Was... Last trip to Norway was 96. I hurt my knee and had to stop hiking, so after a couple days of hobbling around Lysboten I arranged a local helo that I saw buzzing around, flying in heavy equipment. And with numerous faxes to the Norwegian Commune and land owners I got permission for Rolf to lift us all to the top for the next few days. Dont anymore. Never got my B thought. Be safe. Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie95 3 #25 May 24, 2005 QuoteWas... Once a BASE jumper, always a BASE jumper is what I say. You're just taking a break BASEstore.it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites