base695 0 #1 May 24, 2005 Heyall have read that Atair measures their canopies different to other manufacturers and wondered if a troll at 245 would give equivalent performance/wingloading/pack volume to a fox/flik at 265 or an ace at 260? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #2 May 24, 2005 In my opinion (lots of others have different opinions), no. I don't think my Troll 290 is really that much bigger than a BJ 280. I certainly don't think it's an equivalent size to an Ace 310.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #3 May 24, 2005 There is a noticeable difference between my Fox '265 and my Troll '265 (pack volume wise). I'm using two identically sized Gargoyles (made for Troll '265), you can feel and see the difference when closing the containers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base695 0 #4 May 25, 2005 Thanks skreamer....do you notice much difference in performance between the two ie due to potentially different wingloading? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #5 May 25, 2005 but as i meet you once i can tell your lazy,you probaly always pack the Troll last were you have no energy to press the air out oh well im whith Sreamer here Stay safe Stefan Faber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miko 0 #6 May 25, 2005 hi all! it is so: atair measure the canopy underside - this is the different to the others, because they measure the upperside when you´ve 60 to 70kg, best performance is troll 245, 70-80kg- troll265, more than 80kg-troll305 also available is troll 225 and 205 greetings from austria miko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #7 May 25, 2005 Sorry, I can't give you fair feedback on flight and flare performance - Fox is vented without covers, Troll vented with covers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #8 May 25, 2005 QuoteI don't think my Troll 290 is really that much bigger than a BJ 280. I certainly don't think it's an equivalent size to an Ace 310. Ok, I was clearly wrong here. TM and I layed canopies on top of each other today, and his Blackjack 310 is almost exactly the same size as my Troll 290 (the BJ is about 4 inches longer, and the Troll about 8 inches wider).-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jalisco 0 #9 May 25, 2005 Lucky for you, Tom -- I hear, as long as it's not too much shorter, they generally prefer the extra width... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
