katzurki 0 #1 October 30, 2005 About 5 hours ago, with the sun almost set, on a Troll MDV 265 (285), in a Gargoyle WS off a 360 ft A. After I climbed to the exit, it took about 3 minutes (with the mentor patiently standing by my side, my pilot chute in his hand, never once complaining about the bitter cold winds, except an occasional "don't look down" and "it's getting dark" remark) of getting ready. The jump itself was rather a fiasco in the sense that I went so head-down, damn the shaking knees. At least the landing was beautifully soft and stand-upable (though I did not). Two days before the jump I got (extra) insurance and wrote the recommended letter. The insurance company's policy is that their insurance kicks in three days after the signing at the soonest, so we had to add a special clause for it to be in effect right from the following day. Thank you, dz.com friend, who took the trouble of climbing up the A to film the whole thing, then down the A after the jump. Can't show the footage yet, though. My next jump's tomorrow, and so, incidentally, is the friend's (his first). Oh yeah, on coming home, my sister said I looked like I had best sex ever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nicrussell 0 #2 October 31, 2005 Quote Oh yeah, on coming home, my sister said I looked like I had best sex ever She knows this how.... And that takes a lot of courage to admit in an online public forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites katzurki 0 #3 October 31, 2005 QuoteQuote Oh yeah, on coming home, my sister said I looked like I had best sex ever She knows this how.... And that takes a lot of courage to admit in an online public forum. Well, I had staggered into our apartment after a few wild nights before... you know, the silly-grin look and overall elatedness... apparently this one topped them all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crazydave44 0 #4 October 31, 2005 Congrats on your first!!! You do know that what you're getting into is so much more addictive than skydiving. Not to mention how much more dangerous. Take it at stride, and enjoy every frustrating learning moment. Remember that you will never stop learning. Have fun, and welcome to the "dark side"!________________________________________ "We make our own rules, We pave our own paths, We write our own destinies, We 'live' our own lives" ________________________________________ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites katzurki 0 #5 October 31, 2005 Thanks! Second jump now done, much in the same frustrating fashion -- i.e. too headdown. Thankfully, it was a little lighter this time, albeit the winds made landing sorta rough(ish). Friend made his first jump today, already a near-perfect launch and a near-perfect landing, of which Helxen and I shot some great footage. Post up the experience, man! Third jump hopefully tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JaapSuter 0 #6 October 31, 2005 Quotemuch in the same frustrating fashion -- i.e. too headdown. Just out of curiousity, are you being PCAd? Congratulations on your jumps! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TomAiello 26 #7 October 31, 2005 Quote...much in the same frustrating fashion -- i.e. too headdown. Have you considered rigging up a pendulator? A couple hours rigging and making 30 or 40 practice exits could be very valuable in overcoming this issue.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites katzurki 0 #8 October 31, 2005 QuoteQuotemuch in the same frustrating fashion -- i.e. too headdown. Just out of curiousity, are you being PCAd? Congratulations on your jumps! Oh yes, I am. And thanks! Quote Have you considered rigging up a pendulator? A couple hours rigging and making 30 or 40 practice exits could be very valuable in overcoming this issue. I am not exactly sure what a pendulator is, but if my third jump shows no improvement I am off to the gym pit to practice exits, says my mentor. How do you overcome weak legs that make the launch so bad? Force of will? Just keep jumping till fear wears off*? The second jump was much calmer. Edit: sorry, I obviously meant to say "till fear subsides a little bit" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites katzurki 0 #9 October 31, 2005 I also found the exit to be a little psychologically easier if I went with the "go," plus an extra beat. So at exit point, the countdown went like this, at regular intervals: Ready... steady... set... go! fuck!!! (shout I seeing the antenna whiz by upside-down: launch booboo again.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NickDG 23 #10 October 31, 2005 If you are over rotating you are pushing off too hard or too late. Don't jump off as much as hop off. And don't wait for your third jump to start practicing. Find a pool or gym or an old mattress and do some practice right now. The problem with doing early jumps on a hard object is you may be thinking more about separation from the object when overall stability is probably more important in the long run. It's a delicate balancing act that once you learn it you'll wonder why you found it difficult in the first place. And congrats by the way . . . NickD BASE 194 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites yuri_base 1 #11 October 31, 2005 QuoteI looked like I had best sex ever That's because BASE = sex with the most beautiful woman out there: Mother Nature. YuriAndroid+Wear/iOS/Windows apps: L/D Vario, Smart Altimeter, Rockdrop Pro, Wingsuit FAP iOS only: L/D Magic Windows only: WS Studio Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lifewithoutanet 0 #12 October 31, 2005 Congrats on your first and second. Regarding your head-low issue... Where are you looking as you exit? Out towards the horizon? Or are you looking for the ground and/or the antenna? Focus on the horizon, hop off as Nick suggested. -C. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lifewithoutanet 0 #13 October 31, 2005 QuoteThat's because BASE = sex with the most beautiful woman out there: Mother Nature. Don't forget her equally seductive sister: Matertera Urbanus -C. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nicrussell 0 #14 October 31, 2005 try this to calm yourself a little. On the exit do your ready, steady, go and then take a deep breath and exhale. It calms the nerves a little. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crazydave44 0 #15 November 1, 2005 How is the wind directed when you jump? Tail wind? If you are jumping in a crosswind due to the landing, area and guy wires, you can catch some you can get some unstability that way.. Winters on the verge, and with winter, comes wind. Be safe. Focus. Don't ever be ashamed to climb down.. one step at a time! peace________________________________________ "We make our own rules, We pave our own paths, We write our own destinies, We 'live' our own lives" ________________________________________ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites katzurki 0 #16 November 1, 2005 Third time's the charm! Perfect launch, acceptable landing, so I passed BASE "AFF" level 1. Of course, no video to prove it this time :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tfelber 0 #17 November 2, 2005 Quoteshout I seeing the antenna whiz by upside-down: launch booboo again Sounds like he's looking at his feet/ the object. This could easily induce a head-down exit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites katzurki 0 #18 November 2, 2005 I think fear was (is) the main issue. My third jump went perfectly in terms of launch. I have the first jump on video but it's neither very interesting nor beautiful as far as scenery goes, to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tfelber 0 #19 November 2, 2005 Congrats on a jump gone well...Feels great!!! The pendulator that Tom was talking about is designed to eliminate some of those specific issues regarding fear and it altering your performance. Basically he puts you up in a tree about 10-15 feet off the ground with a harness on attached through a pully to someone on the ground. You can then practice your exits repeatedly from a safer altitude. There's still the fear of jumping and knowing whether the person is going to catch you, without nearly as much real danger, unless of course it's rigged so your direct line of flight includes an aluminum picnic table bolted to the ground. That was a close one!!! But it really gets you over the learning curve of what's going to happen when you leave the exit point. I'm sure something could be rigged quite easily, similar to what gymnasts use to enable the same type of practice regarding aerials. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites j0nes 0 #20 November 2, 2005 congratulations. I look forawrd to seeing th pics / video Share this post Link to post Share on other sites katzurki 0 #21 November 4, 2005 Fifth jump made! First freefall, went flawlessly. Currently writing from Atmosphere Gear facility as I wait to get measured for a BASE H/C. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites leroydb 0 #22 November 4, 2005 Quotetry this to calm yourself a little. On the exit do your ready, steady, go and then take a deep breath and exhale. It calms the nerves a little. Once I start my 3,2,1 countdown I have started the ineveitable. I will jump, unless their is an issueLeroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites outrager 6 #23 November 4, 2005 QuoteOnce I start my 3,2,1 countdown I have started the ineveitable. I will jump, unless their is an issue ...and then inevitably post in every goddamn thread on the board. Dude, do you have a slightest idea about how annoying are you? bsbd! Yuri. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites leroydb 0 #24 November 4, 2005 yea, just for you! and then to top it off i reply to your reply to about being annoying..... all in luvLeroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rpersi 0 #25 November 5, 2005 Quote ...and then inevitably post in every goddamn thread on the board. Dude, do you have a slightest idea about how annoying are you? I'm with Yuri on this one. This guy has posted 4500 times on this site while the moderator has 6700. See anything out of balance? Difference is, when Tom speaks, some meaningful is usually said. His posts remind me of that little annoying mosquito buzzing around that just won't go away. I know....bordering 2 weeks double secret probation so I will quit now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 0 Go To Topic Listing
nicrussell 0 #2 October 31, 2005 Quote Oh yeah, on coming home, my sister said I looked like I had best sex ever She knows this how.... And that takes a lot of courage to admit in an online public forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katzurki 0 #3 October 31, 2005 QuoteQuote Oh yeah, on coming home, my sister said I looked like I had best sex ever She knows this how.... And that takes a lot of courage to admit in an online public forum. Well, I had staggered into our apartment after a few wild nights before... you know, the silly-grin look and overall elatedness... apparently this one topped them all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazydave44 0 #4 October 31, 2005 Congrats on your first!!! You do know that what you're getting into is so much more addictive than skydiving. Not to mention how much more dangerous. Take it at stride, and enjoy every frustrating learning moment. Remember that you will never stop learning. Have fun, and welcome to the "dark side"!________________________________________ "We make our own rules, We pave our own paths, We write our own destinies, We 'live' our own lives" ________________________________________ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katzurki 0 #5 October 31, 2005 Thanks! Second jump now done, much in the same frustrating fashion -- i.e. too headdown. Thankfully, it was a little lighter this time, albeit the winds made landing sorta rough(ish). Friend made his first jump today, already a near-perfect launch and a near-perfect landing, of which Helxen and I shot some great footage. Post up the experience, man! Third jump hopefully tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JaapSuter 0 #6 October 31, 2005 Quotemuch in the same frustrating fashion -- i.e. too headdown. Just out of curiousity, are you being PCAd? Congratulations on your jumps! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #7 October 31, 2005 Quote...much in the same frustrating fashion -- i.e. too headdown. Have you considered rigging up a pendulator? A couple hours rigging and making 30 or 40 practice exits could be very valuable in overcoming this issue.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katzurki 0 #8 October 31, 2005 QuoteQuotemuch in the same frustrating fashion -- i.e. too headdown. Just out of curiousity, are you being PCAd? Congratulations on your jumps! Oh yes, I am. And thanks! Quote Have you considered rigging up a pendulator? A couple hours rigging and making 30 or 40 practice exits could be very valuable in overcoming this issue. I am not exactly sure what a pendulator is, but if my third jump shows no improvement I am off to the gym pit to practice exits, says my mentor. How do you overcome weak legs that make the launch so bad? Force of will? Just keep jumping till fear wears off*? The second jump was much calmer. Edit: sorry, I obviously meant to say "till fear subsides a little bit" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katzurki 0 #9 October 31, 2005 I also found the exit to be a little psychologically easier if I went with the "go," plus an extra beat. So at exit point, the countdown went like this, at regular intervals: Ready... steady... set... go! fuck!!! (shout I seeing the antenna whiz by upside-down: launch booboo again.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #10 October 31, 2005 If you are over rotating you are pushing off too hard or too late. Don't jump off as much as hop off. And don't wait for your third jump to start practicing. Find a pool or gym or an old mattress and do some practice right now. The problem with doing early jumps on a hard object is you may be thinking more about separation from the object when overall stability is probably more important in the long run. It's a delicate balancing act that once you learn it you'll wonder why you found it difficult in the first place. And congrats by the way . . . NickD BASE 194 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yuri_base 1 #11 October 31, 2005 QuoteI looked like I had best sex ever That's because BASE = sex with the most beautiful woman out there: Mother Nature. YuriAndroid+Wear/iOS/Windows apps: L/D Vario, Smart Altimeter, Rockdrop Pro, Wingsuit FAP iOS only: L/D Magic Windows only: WS Studio Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lifewithoutanet 0 #12 October 31, 2005 Congrats on your first and second. Regarding your head-low issue... Where are you looking as you exit? Out towards the horizon? Or are you looking for the ground and/or the antenna? Focus on the horizon, hop off as Nick suggested. -C. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lifewithoutanet 0 #13 October 31, 2005 QuoteThat's because BASE = sex with the most beautiful woman out there: Mother Nature. Don't forget her equally seductive sister: Matertera Urbanus -C. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicrussell 0 #14 October 31, 2005 try this to calm yourself a little. On the exit do your ready, steady, go and then take a deep breath and exhale. It calms the nerves a little. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazydave44 0 #15 November 1, 2005 How is the wind directed when you jump? Tail wind? If you are jumping in a crosswind due to the landing, area and guy wires, you can catch some you can get some unstability that way.. Winters on the verge, and with winter, comes wind. Be safe. Focus. Don't ever be ashamed to climb down.. one step at a time! peace________________________________________ "We make our own rules, We pave our own paths, We write our own destinies, We 'live' our own lives" ________________________________________ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katzurki 0 #16 November 1, 2005 Third time's the charm! Perfect launch, acceptable landing, so I passed BASE "AFF" level 1. Of course, no video to prove it this time :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tfelber 0 #17 November 2, 2005 Quoteshout I seeing the antenna whiz by upside-down: launch booboo again Sounds like he's looking at his feet/ the object. This could easily induce a head-down exit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katzurki 0 #18 November 2, 2005 I think fear was (is) the main issue. My third jump went perfectly in terms of launch. I have the first jump on video but it's neither very interesting nor beautiful as far as scenery goes, to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tfelber 0 #19 November 2, 2005 Congrats on a jump gone well...Feels great!!! The pendulator that Tom was talking about is designed to eliminate some of those specific issues regarding fear and it altering your performance. Basically he puts you up in a tree about 10-15 feet off the ground with a harness on attached through a pully to someone on the ground. You can then practice your exits repeatedly from a safer altitude. There's still the fear of jumping and knowing whether the person is going to catch you, without nearly as much real danger, unless of course it's rigged so your direct line of flight includes an aluminum picnic table bolted to the ground. That was a close one!!! But it really gets you over the learning curve of what's going to happen when you leave the exit point. I'm sure something could be rigged quite easily, similar to what gymnasts use to enable the same type of practice regarding aerials. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j0nes 0 #20 November 2, 2005 congratulations. I look forawrd to seeing th pics / video Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katzurki 0 #21 November 4, 2005 Fifth jump made! First freefall, went flawlessly. Currently writing from Atmosphere Gear facility as I wait to get measured for a BASE H/C. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites leroydb 0 #22 November 4, 2005 Quotetry this to calm yourself a little. On the exit do your ready, steady, go and then take a deep breath and exhale. It calms the nerves a little. Once I start my 3,2,1 countdown I have started the ineveitable. I will jump, unless their is an issueLeroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites outrager 6 #23 November 4, 2005 QuoteOnce I start my 3,2,1 countdown I have started the ineveitable. I will jump, unless their is an issue ...and then inevitably post in every goddamn thread on the board. Dude, do you have a slightest idea about how annoying are you? bsbd! Yuri. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites leroydb 0 #24 November 4, 2005 yea, just for you! and then to top it off i reply to your reply to about being annoying..... all in luvLeroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rpersi 0 #25 November 5, 2005 Quote ...and then inevitably post in every goddamn thread on the board. Dude, do you have a slightest idea about how annoying are you? I'm with Yuri on this one. This guy has posted 4500 times on this site while the moderator has 6700. See anything out of balance? Difference is, when Tom speaks, some meaningful is usually said. His posts remind me of that little annoying mosquito buzzing around that just won't go away. I know....bordering 2 weeks double secret probation so I will quit now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 0
leroydb 0 #22 November 4, 2005 Quotetry this to calm yourself a little. On the exit do your ready, steady, go and then take a deep breath and exhale. It calms the nerves a little. Once I start my 3,2,1 countdown I have started the ineveitable. I will jump, unless their is an issueLeroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
outrager 6 #23 November 4, 2005 QuoteOnce I start my 3,2,1 countdown I have started the ineveitable. I will jump, unless their is an issue ...and then inevitably post in every goddamn thread on the board. Dude, do you have a slightest idea about how annoying are you? bsbd! Yuri. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #24 November 4, 2005 yea, just for you! and then to top it off i reply to your reply to about being annoying..... all in luvLeroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rpersi 0 #25 November 5, 2005 Quote ...and then inevitably post in every goddamn thread on the board. Dude, do you have a slightest idea about how annoying are you? I'm with Yuri on this one. This guy has posted 4500 times on this site while the moderator has 6700. See anything out of balance? Difference is, when Tom speaks, some meaningful is usually said. His posts remind me of that little annoying mosquito buzzing around that just won't go away. I know....bordering 2 weeks double secret probation so I will quit now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
