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BASE jumpers and Seat Belts

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So I was hanging out with one of my non-jumper buddies earlier today and I noticed that he wasn’t wearing a seat belt. I asked him why he doesn’t and he just shrugged. Personally I think not wearing a seat belt is insane! I’d be more nervous about not wearing a seat belt than making a BASE jump. There are so many bad drivers out there and I also hear a lot of stories from my dad who is a Paramedic about all the terrible injuries from minor accident because someone wasn’t wear a seat belt.

So I’m curious, do you wear a seat belt?

Coco

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Having seen numerous autopsies as part of my post grad pathology training, I learnt 3 things:

1. Don't smoke
2. Always wear a seat belt
3. Never get on a motorbike (excludes m/cross and trail riding).
4. Don't be a fat git ingesting a crappy diet.

To date I have followed those religiously.

At a push you could make a 5th 'learning' about alcohol & drugs but that is a bit more circumstantial and environment specific.
flame away....

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I learnt 3 things:

1. Don't smoke
2. Always wear a seat belt
3. Never get on a motorbike (excludes m/cross and trail riding).
4. Don't be a fat git ingesting a crappy diet.


nice list, but, umm, that looks like 4 things...

oh, and I wear my seat belt!
I don't want to be a paramedic's horror story.
DON'T PANIC
The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.
sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

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...one of my non-jumper buddies wasn’t wearing a seat belt. I asked him why he doesn’t and he just shrugged.



Is this the same buddy that says he'll never make a BASE jump because it's too dangerous?

It always surprises me how skewed some people's perception of risk is and how little thought they actually put into these things.

It used to piss me of. Nowadays I just shrug... :)

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Is this the same buddy that says he'll never make a BASE jump because it's too dangerous?



No but I don't know who I was talking about if I said that. This guy would never BASE but would make a skydive.

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It always surprises me how skewed some people's perception of risk is and how little thought they actually put into these things.



Oh yea, same here. The same buddy that I was driving with today was going 90 weaving in and out of cars without a seat belt on. I think he is taking more of a risk than when I jump one of my local A's. There are more chances for unknowns and unpredictable changes for him than for a BASE jump. A car could change lanes, deer in the road, and other thing that could change and he not being able to react fast enough going 90. At least on a BASE jump I think I can better prepare myself for malfunction and off heading opening.

But I thank god I haven’t had the worst malfunction. A Nut Under.:D Ouch!!

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It used to piss me of. Nowadays I just shrug... :)



I don't think I will ever be able to just shrug. Especially one I get into a Fire Department and I see the accidents first hand.

Coco

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"Is this the same buddy that says he'll never make a BASE jump because it's too dangerous?"

No but I don't know who I was talking about if I said that. This guy would never BASE but would make a skydive.



I was talking hypothetically... :)

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Oh! :P:S

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"Is this the same buddy that says he'll never make a BASE jump because it's too dangerous?"

No but I don't know who I was talking about if I said that. This guy would never BASE but would make a skydive.



I was talking hypothetically... :)

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yes, i wear a seatbelt. only because of my own experiences.

#1 wreck - no belt - broken jaw on the steering wheel and smashed out all of my teeth.

#2 wreck - belt on - asleep behind the wheel on the highway (cruise control @75) went off the road, mowed down 6 healthy trees - unscathed.

that settled it for me.;)

~E

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I wear a seat belt. When I was very young, I thought that it is uncool to not wear one (don’t ask me why…) and I got in a car crash. My girlfriend then was also not wearing her seat belt and hit the front window pretty hard with her head and also had to get stitches on her knee. That was the last time I did not wear it. And besides, in Switzerland you have to pay high fines if you’re not wearing it, even on the back seat.
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The same buddy that I was driving with today was going 90 weaving in and out of cars without a seat belt on. I think he is taking more of a risk than when I jump one of my local A's. There are more chances for unknowns and unpredictable changes for him than for a BASE jump. A car could change lanes, deer in the road, and other thing that could change and he not being able to react fast enough going 90.



#1 - I nearly always wear my seatbelt.
#2 - 90 mph really isn't all that fast.
#3 - A high performance driver could say the same thing about all the "unknowns" that could happen when you make a BASE jump. You couldn't possibly be able to react fast enough to deal with them. Of course, he wouldn't be very well schooled in BASE jumping. How well schooled are you in high performance driving? Then again, your buddy might not be either.

Lou

PS - I've seen 4 cliff strikes and 1 very near miss (landing on the talus in some very nasty bushes) in the last 6 weeks. All of them either didn't have enough time to react or reacted improperly to the situation.

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...one of my non-jumper buddies wasn’t wearing a seat belt. I asked him why he doesn’t and he just shrugged.



Is this the same buddy that says he'll never make a BASE jump because it's too dangerous?

It always surprises me how skewed some people's perception of risk is and how little thought they actually put into these things.

It used to piss me of. Nowadays I just shrug... :)


A fellow BASE jumper(you reading this? :ph34r:) told me he never wears a seat belt. He has his reasons. I don't agree but, whatever.....:D. You know this guy Jaap.

Kris.

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Yea he is definitally not a high performance driver.

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#1 - I nearly always wear my seatbelt.
#2 - 90 mph really isn't all that fast.
#3 - A high performance driver could say the same thing about all the "unknowns" that could happen when you make a BASE jump. You couldn't possibly be able to react fast enough to deal with them. Of course, he wouldn't be very well schooled in BASE jumping. How well schooled are you in high performance driving? Then again, your buddy might not be either.

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A fellow BASE jumper told me he never wears a seat belt. He has his reasons. I don't agree but, whatever...:D You know this guy Jaap.



Yeah, we've already discussed this after driving back from a jump a few months back. I couldn't quite understand what his reasoning was, but in the end we just agreed to disagree.

I mean, I'll be the last to tell another BASE jumper what's best for his safety... :)
Edited to add: now that I saw that you were from the UK I'm no longer sure if we're talking about the same jumper. I guess I know two BASE jumpers that don't wear seatbelts? Oh well...

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It always surprises me how skewed some people's perception of risk is and how little thought they actually put into these things.

My toughts exactly

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PS - I've seen 4 cliff strikes and 1 very near miss (landing on the talus in some very nasty bushes) in the last 6 weeks. All of them either didn't have enough time to react or reacted improperly to the situation.



Who the hell are you jumping with? Doesn't sound like a group of guys I'd be comfortable sharing loads with. Might be time for some remedial training on the basics. A lot of jumpers are leaving TF thinking they're BASE jumpers, then stop learning. I'm not saying that's what happened in this case, but that sounds like a pretty accident prone crew.

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yo Chad

take it easy bro

6 weeks just includes the Turkey Boogie in Moab, so it's entirely possible that 3 of the strikes where seen there

but then, I don't need to remind you that there was some crazy shit going down at the turkey boogie this year...

cya
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For those of you who do not wear a seat belt, care to explain why not?

"U too cool"? :P

Coco

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i always wear seathbelt,even as im the best driver in the world,the rest of you are still out there on the roads:P

Stay safe
Stefan Faber

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Faber dont drive small crap cars:P naahhh gimme Ray L.´car or "Death Bill"´s car your small "car is what the rest of us give our kids:P

Stay safe
Stefan Faber

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Faber: "Chad, when do I get to drive"

Chad: "Um... in a little while."

(((long silent pause)))

Chad: "So, Peter, want to drive for a while?"

:D

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"chad"I want to sleeep,i have driven for so many miles and i cant take the 45mins back to my moms so we can sleep in a nice bed,i preffere to sleep in my small car here at this parkinglot"

"Peter AND Faber"
We know the way,we can drive both cars back(Tim´s car aswell),we are so close"

"Chad"
Nah we will sleep good in theese cars

I cant belive Americans are even more lazy than i am..

Stay safe
Stefan Faber

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Haha!!!! Nice dude. I know I got about 5 hours sleep that whole trip. I'm such a lazy American.;)

Remember that after I slept in that parking lot for two hours, we drove two hours to ride rollercoasters all day!

Was that before or after we drove 400 miles round trip to jump the bridge on the coast?:S

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yeeaaahhh the rolercoasters were great fun..:ph34r::D

you only drowe that much as you insisted;) i got alot of beauty neps in the back,i never complained about that...:):D

Katie... you still scream my name out loud?and plz tell the that you has washed the bekini i used:o:D

You guys are great fun,just sad you desided to live that far away.. :|

btw Nikolaj got his first DK object:ph34r: its all fun..

Stay safe
Stefan Faber

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