base283 0 #1 April 19, 2006 No, no, no, no,Never ever ever!! At first I was concerned about his rig but now I realize that he was putting it all over the packing area and other peoples packing mats and this was even worse. After I spoke to him, he used it as a place to stow his packing clamps(NO) instead of a packing weight. He had 40 pack jobs using this car battery as a weight. Can we get some input from others on why you should not do this so the guy realizes that I was only trying to help and not being a jerk. I’ve seen harnesses eaten through. Thanks in advance, Take care, space Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JaapSuter 0 #2 April 19, 2006 QuoteI was only trying to help and not being a jerk. Fine, I'll be the jerk: "Using a car battery during packing is fucking retarded!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SullyFlyer 0 #3 April 19, 2006 Yeah, this just seems like a no-brainer. Use a rock, it won't spill battery acid all over your $2000 rig or shock the shit out of you when you grab your clamps. I'm all for using what is on hand: rocks, a friends rig, a small child; but a battery is a little out there. But that's just me talkin' ~ Fear is the thief of dreams... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #4 April 19, 2006 I find a tent peg through the three rings to be a secure, handy and portable packing aid when on grass, similiar to the Triax stake, but much cheaper, although it can't open beer (well, maybe ring-pulls)Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pocbase 0 #5 April 19, 2006 Sometimes you've just got to sit on a case of beers and cry...The bums will never win Lebowski, the bums will never win! Enfin j'ai trouvé: Bieeeen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rauk 0 #6 April 19, 2006 I use ropes for work every day, and have only heard stories of acid eating through ropes and people falling, battery acid in fact, from a car battery that leaked into the back of a truck and the ropes sat in it. Yeah, battery acid is REALLY bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #7 April 19, 2006 Please tell me you're joking! Just in case you are for real, acid and nylon do not mix well because the presence of acid will severely degrade nylon. Years ago a batch of bad mesh fabric found its way into a bunch of round reserves. The mesh had been treated with some sort of acid--I think it was a flame retardant or something like that. Anyway, the prolonged contact betwen the mesh and the nylon canopy fabric cause the canopy fabric to have roughly the tensile strength of toilet paper in some cases, and that was acid in trace amounts! Car batteries, in general, contain acid and need to be kept away from nylon, e.g., parachute stuff. edited to add: Tracy, I looked at that pic again. That's too fucked up to be made up. That really is for real, isn't it? Walt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
460 0 #8 April 19, 2006 And everyone thought I was fucked up for using human skulls for packing weights.Looks like a death sandwich without the bread - Steve Deadman Morrell, BASE 174 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #9 April 19, 2006 Yes this is fucked. But might be cool is to empty one, clean it out, clean it out again, test it, dry it, and use it for a packing weight. No danger and everybody would be bitching. (KIDS, DO NOT DO THIS AT HOME! I'm a chemist, used to working with concentrated acids, didn't think I got any on me with one of those fill it at home batteries, and still had a spot hurting on my hand.) For rigging I use a 14 inch piece of railroad track.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoter 0 #10 April 19, 2006 QuoteSometimes you've just got to sit on a case of beers and cry... Never !..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FIREFLYR 0 #11 April 19, 2006 BWAHAhhhha! Darwin says it's cool....continue. ~J"One flew East,and one flew West..............one flew over the cuckoo's nest" "There's absolutely no excuse for the way I'm about to act" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pullhigh 0 #12 April 19, 2006 I know it's an expesnive piece of equipment and all, but isn't the real issue here that the acid will eventually eat through the webbing and potentially kill the person it is suppoes to be supporting? I understand the whole Darwinism theory and all, and completely agree with it. BUT, how many people out there are jumping a used rig that this could have been done to and may fail at any given time in the future? Ganja Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pringles 0 #13 April 19, 2006 wouldn't it be ethical to say don't buy a used rig from this person? I know I wouldn't want to buy a rig from this guy sometime next month once he realizes that he may not have used his best judgement. I realize that on inspection you may find discoloration but it would suck to find out the hard way. Matt Davies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #14 April 19, 2006 QuoteAnd everyone thought I was fucked up for using human skulls for packing weights. It wasn't using the human skulls that seemed weird, it was the fact that you kept calling them mom and dad. Walt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornishe 0 #15 April 20, 2006 holy crap, im getting a woody. i want to do 2ways with this brainchild. imagine the rush of wondering if the guy you are looking at is going to experience, right in front of your eyes, a MLW snapping or maybe a riser depending on where the battery was sitting. and when it finally happens, man thats gonna be great video for the carnage reel. how do i take popcorn with me on the jump?¿?¿??¿? -abbieAbbie Mashaal Skydive Idaho Snake River Skydiving TandemBASE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blitzkrieg 0 #16 April 20, 2006 oh man! that is brilliant. i mean, who doesn't carry an extra battery around with them everywhere? what better way to put it to good use. i wish i had pictures of the pants i was wearing when after working on my car's battery cables i had wiped my hands on them... they came out of the wash with a some significant holes... ooops! so his rig should be fine as long as it doesn't get wet, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
medusa 0 #17 April 20, 2006 QuoteYes this is fucked. But might be cool is to empty one, clean it out, clean it out again, test it, dry it, and use it for a packing weight. No danger and everybody would be bitching. Quote Dude you can be the greatest chemist ever, still you want to go true all the cleaning and testing just to be able to use a battery? Dude if you are really a chemist; it wouldn’t be easier to create a kind of super portable solution that can gain and lost its weight when ever you want??? jejeje Notice my sarcasm?? Just use a fucking rig and stop making your life so dam difficult.Medusa Get Killed or Die Trying! Patent pending ATFK15456 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PeteS 0 #18 April 20, 2006 BAD BASEJUMPER, BAD BASEJUMPER! This assembly must be IMMEDIATELY pulled from service and checked by a person knowlegable with fabric ph testing. IT IS NOT AIRWORTHY AT THIS TIME! It is not a faa or anything else duty but the owner has made a GRAVE MISTAKE. This is the worst thing that can happen to a rig, any place suspect might have to be cut out and replaced. Not kidding around with this one do not jump it! Take it apart and store in separate bags and get it tested, before using again. The owner might lose a rig but not the use of the body when the canopy partially separates from the ( insert failure mode here) and breaks' his neck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FreeflyGoat 0 #19 April 20, 2006 Cant find your packing clamps? You could just use 4 batteries and place them on top of the folded canopy to keep your packjob nice and neat. I also find it easy when in the field and dont have a packing weight to pull my car onto the top of the rig to keep it from moving. It sure does keep all the lines nice and taught. _________________________ goat derka jerka bukkake jihad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 321Cya 0 #20 April 20, 2006 http://books.google.co.uk/books?ie=UTF-8&vid=ISBN0915516357&id=BKTuTXrXQu0C&dq=acid+on+parachute+fabrics&lpg=PA497&pg=PA497&sig=QU_yWtGPWHpFXuOFqjs4j4HAUoA From Dan Poynter's 'THE PARACHUTE MANUAL' (see bottom right 'Acid'), THE most essential rigger's guide on the planet... 'Live and learn' J. www.vandrunen.ch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Faber 0 #21 April 20, 2006 Quote He had 40 pack jobs using this car battery as a weight. hopefully not the same packjob,in that case he should buy beers no matter if its a skydive thing or not.. the battery look clean through,but not a thing i would use as a weight..i would preffere a nude hot babe Stay safe Stefan Faber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Triaxial 0 #22 April 20, 2006 Insert Triax T-Stake Here..... Kenyon www.triaxproductions.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites councilman24 37 #23 April 20, 2006 QuoteDude you can be the greatest chemist ever, still you want to go true all the cleaning and testing just to be able to use a battery? Sure, if I didn't have a 100 other things to do first. Actually wouldn't take all that long after getting the inital concentrate out safely. Put it in a laundry sink, stick tubing in one cell, open the others and let it run for an hour. Test the water coming out with pH paper. Remember "Water to acid it never placid" Hmmmm, I don't have any car batteries but I do have a motorcycle battery. May have to try it.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites magot 0 #24 April 20, 2006 Whats the big deal. Mybe his rig and canopy are made of wool. I ve alway's used car batteries for weights and im fineTOSS MY SALAD I'm an invincible re-tarded ninja derka derka bakala bakala muhammad jihad 1072 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wwarped 0 #25 April 20, 2006 Quote He had 40 pack jobs using this car battery as a weight. why did it take so long for someone to point out the error of his ways? who jumps with him? does he have friends? DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 0 Go To Topic Listing
PeteS 0 #18 April 20, 2006 BAD BASEJUMPER, BAD BASEJUMPER! This assembly must be IMMEDIATELY pulled from service and checked by a person knowlegable with fabric ph testing. IT IS NOT AIRWORTHY AT THIS TIME! It is not a faa or anything else duty but the owner has made a GRAVE MISTAKE. This is the worst thing that can happen to a rig, any place suspect might have to be cut out and replaced. Not kidding around with this one do not jump it! Take it apart and store in separate bags and get it tested, before using again. The owner might lose a rig but not the use of the body when the canopy partially separates from the ( insert failure mode here) and breaks' his neck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyGoat 0 #19 April 20, 2006 Cant find your packing clamps? You could just use 4 batteries and place them on top of the folded canopy to keep your packjob nice and neat. I also find it easy when in the field and dont have a packing weight to pull my car onto the top of the rig to keep it from moving. It sure does keep all the lines nice and taught. _________________________ goat derka jerka bukkake jihad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
321Cya 0 #20 April 20, 2006 http://books.google.co.uk/books?ie=UTF-8&vid=ISBN0915516357&id=BKTuTXrXQu0C&dq=acid+on+parachute+fabrics&lpg=PA497&pg=PA497&sig=QU_yWtGPWHpFXuOFqjs4j4HAUoA From Dan Poynter's 'THE PARACHUTE MANUAL' (see bottom right 'Acid'), THE most essential rigger's guide on the planet... 'Live and learn' J. www.vandrunen.ch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #21 April 20, 2006 Quote He had 40 pack jobs using this car battery as a weight. hopefully not the same packjob,in that case he should buy beers no matter if its a skydive thing or not.. the battery look clean through,but not a thing i would use as a weight..i would preffere a nude hot babe Stay safe Stefan Faber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triaxial 0 #22 April 20, 2006 Insert Triax T-Stake Here..... Kenyon www.triaxproductions.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #23 April 20, 2006 QuoteDude you can be the greatest chemist ever, still you want to go true all the cleaning and testing just to be able to use a battery? Sure, if I didn't have a 100 other things to do first. Actually wouldn't take all that long after getting the inital concentrate out safely. Put it in a laundry sink, stick tubing in one cell, open the others and let it run for an hour. Test the water coming out with pH paper. Remember "Water to acid it never placid" Hmmmm, I don't have any car batteries but I do have a motorcycle battery. May have to try it.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magot 0 #24 April 20, 2006 Whats the big deal. Mybe his rig and canopy are made of wool. I ve alway's used car batteries for weights and im fineTOSS MY SALAD I'm an invincible re-tarded ninja derka derka bakala bakala muhammad jihad 1072 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wwarped 0 #25 April 20, 2006 Quote He had 40 pack jobs using this car battery as a weight. why did it take so long for someone to point out the error of his ways? who jumps with him? does he have friends? DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
