Trebec 0 #1 August 17, 2006 first off phoenix track pants are bad ass. not to sure about how much the jacket helps, but it looks cool anyway. but what you should know is that besides filling up with air quickly they also fill up with water just as fast and will drown you. if you are faced with a water landing, undo your bootie hook and un zip your pants, also losten the staps on your arms for the jacket. if not they will fill up and weigh you down and drown you. you cant swim to shore without on doing it. and if you try to do it while you are in the water you will sink fast. just a heads up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites