"Bad Ideas" list

[base283 0]

The goal here is to list bad idea practices in the art of packing and also BASE jumping. Maybe some one has time to play with this photo attached that came from the early 80's.
Please be responsible with your replies.

I'll go first.
take care,
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The list (of how not to get on "The List").

1. Using Pull up cords or rubberbands as a PC packing aid.
2. Car Battery as a packing weight.

[nec 0]

Extrem, but this list should be worth reading.

Nico

[leapdog 0]

Whoa.
That post has so much I didn't know even after asking questions from experienced jumpers.

Thanks.

Gunnery Sergeant of Marines
"I would like it if I were challenged mentally at my job and not feel like I'm mentally challenged." - Co-worker

[base283 0]

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The goal here is to list bad idea practices in the art of packing and also BASE jumping.
The list (of how not to get on "The List").

1. Using Pull up cords or rubberbands as a PC packing aid (2 fatal, 1 possible AFAIK).
2. Car Battery as a packing weight. (1 near fatal.AFAIK)
3. Exiting on one's back to video those exiting after (5 fatal. AFAIK).
4. Hackeysack type PC handle entanglement with bridle. (1 fatal.AFAIK)
5. Miss rigging the brake lines in a pack transition from slider down to slider up. (1 fatal.AFAIK).
6. Unstable freefall until or almost until impact. (4 fatal .AFAIK)

I am only doing this from memory and not from "The List".
take care,
space

[pidge 0]

Doing a bomb in a pool after a 4 day drinking binge.

Enjoy

Jim

'Don't let your ambitions get mixed up with your capabilites'

[katzurki 0]

Jumping/packing drunk.
Jumping/packing under drugs.
Jumping/packing after 2 sleepless nights.

[KrisFlyZ 0]

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4. Hackeysack type PC handle entanglement with bridle. (1 fatal.AFAIK)

This happened on a PC with a plastic pipe handle as well...not that the handle would have mattered...the know was around the material the PC trailed for a few secs and extracted the PC a few secs before impact was due(the shadow in the video was getting close).

Several people including me(I deleted all the pics on that SD card by mistake) took pics of the PC. Maybe someone will post.

I think the jumper held the PC a sec after extracting it from the pouch before throwing it. Does this fall under the weak PC throw category?

Kris.

[base_rigger 0]

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Jumping/packing under drugs.

Care to elaborate on that?

You know you have a problem when maggot is the voice of reason at the exit points

[460 0]

1) having multiple rigs packed multiple ways without clear labels as to how it was packed.

2) using the white loop on the LRT system when going slider up.

3) not attaching the PC to the centerline sewn loop and using the side tapes instead.

Looks like a death sandwich without the bread - Steve Deadman Morrell, BASE 174

[avenfoto 0]

dont worry nobody does that...

[460 0]

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Jumping/packing drunk.
Jumping/packing under drugs.
Jumping/packing after 2 sleepless nights.

Or Jumping/packing after 2 sleepness nights on drugs while drunk.

Looks like a death sandwich without the bread - Steve Deadman Morrell, BASE 174

[n_pertuset 0]

I haven't heard this story yet.
How did the car battery as a packing weight almost cause a fatality?

Nathan

Nathan

[katzurki 0]

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Jumping/packing under drugs.

Care to elaborate on that?

I've seen it done a few times, and it never was pretty, and sometimes downright scary.

Personally I am guilty of #3, jumping after a couple sleepless nights. That was one ugly jump. I could never concentrate on the task at hand, and I kept dozing off on the climb up. There's been a picture posted here somewhere of someone in freefall with an undone chest strap; that was me. Luckily it was a TARD jump (tard in more ways than one, eh).

[stitch 0]

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Or Jumping/packing after 2 sleepness nights on drugs while drunk.

Alright now, I was not on drugs.

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[bmsbase 0]

??? hmmm 4:20 ...

blaine

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Jumping/packing drunk.
Jumping/packing under drugs.
Jumping/packing after 2 sleepless nights.

Define 'Drunk'
I am not a medical porsen, but I was under the impression that although alcohol is a depressent, in the early stages of alcohol consumption awareness and reaction goes up. I also seem to be under the impression that police officers look for 'extra' careful drivers after closing time to identify potential DIUs, i.e. people who drive below the speed limit and reduce speed before any junctions. So, one could argue that being slightly drunk makes you react better in an emergency situation and that packing whilst very drunk makes you more 'careful' about packing

Just My Penny - 'No comments are meant to offend individuals and are purely a personal view presented by myself'.

[base736 0]

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2) using the white loop on the LRT system when going slider up.

Are you suggesting just sticking the nose of the toggle through the brake setting rather than using the white loop? Does this offer anything other than the obvious (but, I would argue, marginal) increase in security and savings in wear-and-tear from not involving the white loop where it's not necessary?

To the list, I'll contribute, "Black elastics. Anywhere. Seriously."

[yuri_base 1]

- Trying to detect radiation by sensing it.

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[PeteS 0]

Velcroing your cheststap for the climb without threading it properly and threading the legstraps through the buckles WITHOUT taking the rig off!!!!!

[Stewie 0]

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2) using the white loop on the LRT system when going slider up.

Are you suggesting just sticking the nose of the toggle through the brake setting rather than using the white loop? Does this offer anything other than the obvious (but, I would argue, marginal) increase in security and savings in wear-and-tear from not involving the white loop where it's not necessary?

In Apex's Owner's Manual, it specifically says not to use the white loop when going slider up, just to tuck it to the side. Why, I don't know. My ignorance shows. Can anyone chime in?

"Fuck that. I'll take a good ass-pounding over a bj any day." -- pyrotech

[d_goldsmith 1]

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and threading the legstraps through the buckles WITHOUT taking the rig off!!!!!

I haven't done this, yet, but don't see any problem with it. Can you clarify the issue with threading the legs straps while the rig is over your shoulders?

[neiljarvis 0]

How about:

Sail sliders have no place in base

Short delays slider up are prone to off heading
openings (read: numerous cliff strikes-fatalities at one of the popular E's in LB)

PLAY SAFE

[Bazair2air 0]

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How did the car battery as a packing weight almost cause a fatality?

It hasn't yet. It is work in progress.

I would also like to add:

JUI, it's a bad idea.

[base283 0]

The battery acid weakened the main lift web and one jump later the webbing tore 3/4 of the way through.

[Mikki_ZH 0]

Steet (I don't know how to spell his name, in fact I don't know how to spell many words...) from Norway would probably say it is not smart to do a terminal jump in Kjerag with a slider down packed rig...

Michi (#1068)
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