Problem with new container

[loflyer 0]

Last Christmas, me & my boyfriend purchased new Javelin Odessey Containers, I love it!
There is only one problem I am having.... I am having a problem with my leg straps slipping on opening. I have tried using Bee's Wax (this was suggested by one of the riggers I know). But it still is slipping a little more than I feel comfortable with.
Does anyone else have any suggestions? Could it be the way I am folding the excess part of the strap?
Any suggestions would be greatly appriciated..

Loflyer

[BigM 2]

What exactly do you mean by "slipping"? If you mean slipping down your legs, a bungee attached between the 2 legstraps should fix the problem. If you mean that the legstraps are slipping through the buckle, then you need to be talking to Sunpath.

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[KellyF 16]

Bees wax is simply a band-aid type fix that will attract dirt and eventually make them slip more. What kind of webbing? Ty-8 (smooth feel, black stripe down the center), or Ty-7 (rougher feel, yellow stripes down the sides)? I assume this is the two piece legstrap hardware (the kind you can"flip" open)? I would get in contact with Sun Path, I was under the impression that they have a fix for this. Also, it may be a good idea to post this in the Gear and Rigging forum. Good luck!

[bbarnhouse 0]

You can put a bungee on the leg straps in the back, or use a pull-up cord to tie them together.
Back in the old days when straps were made of cotton, the elastic keeper was used by pushing it to the top of the hardware. (was actually the intent of the keeper in the first place)

[riggerrob 643]

This was already covered on another thread.

I have no clue why your local rigger suggested bees wax. Waxing webbing is not standard practice.

Take another look at how you are folding the ends of your leg straps. If the folds are too thick close to the friction adaptor (buckle), they may lift the edge of the buckle, encouraging it to slip.

A short term solution involves wrapping a black, elastic strap keeper AROUND the buckle slider.

A medium-term solution involves asking your local rigger to sew an extra layer of webbing (i.e. Type 12) onto the existing leg strap, thickening it and increasing friction through the buckles.

The long term solution involves returning your harness to the factory for buckle replacement. Since the rig is new, they will probably do the repair for free.

[masterrig 1]

The elastic keeper idea works, rather well. I've had several folks ask me about 'quick adjuster' slippage and I recommend one or even a second keeper. If that doesn't work, I tell them to contact the manufacturer of the harness-container. Works good for chest-straps, also. Like you said... "if, that is the problem."

Chuck

[loflyer 0]

Lori

[Layton 0]

i have a new mirage and my leg straps slip just a little on opening i have b12s so i thought this was normal

[Tonto 1]

Is your hardwear Stainless steel?

Stainless slips. You can follow others advice about beeswax, bungies and S folds, but they're all bandAid fixes. Also bear in mind that rubber bands are friction hungry and can damage the webbing over time.

t

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[loflyer 0]

Im going to try folding the excess leg strap differently & see if this will help. I am also wondering if while Im sit flying if this isn't causing the buckle to lift a bit. Well thanks for the info...

lori

[hottamaly 1]

I was having the same problem and ended up sending my Javlin back and had them put on the Type 8 webbing. Now they don't slip as much.

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[RMURRAY 1]

people keep on buying stainless even though this issue has been around forever.....why is that?

rm

[hookitt 1]

Stainless is kick ass hardware. It looks good. Articulated harnesses don't squeak and I like that too. Shiny things.... OOooo .. aaaahh..

My legpads have room above the Thread throughs. I placed the keeper above it and double the excess webbing back and tuck it in.

I always tighten my legstraps under canopy any way and this method makes it easier.

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[RMURRAY 1]

man, that sounds like a pain in the ass - but at least you look cool and you don't squeak. I would pass on SS hardware and the ringed harness...I guess I still don't get it.

rm

[hookitt 1]

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man, that sounds like a pain in the ass - but at least you look cool and you don't squeak. I would pass on SS hardware and the ringed harness...I guess I still don't get it.

HAHaha nah, it's not actually. I'm sure I make it sound like a challenge. Tighten your legstraps as usual and then it's just pulled up instead of pushed down, then simply folded in half and slid into the keeper and into the upper pad. There's plenty of room on the Infinity and on my old Eclipse. takes but a few seconds.

I was kidding about the cool part, however you gotta admit, stainless does look quite nice. With standard nickle cadmium, I still store the excess that way. I'm all about simple and this works well.

Ever donned a climbing harness? It's best to double back the excess after tightening the webbing. It's just like that except you don't have to thread the excess back into the buckle.

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