vortexcj 0 #1 May 6, 2004 I am about to buy a new AAD. So i want to see what everyone thinks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartsDaddy 7 #2 May 6, 2004 Cypress one it is proven and reliable Handguns are only used to fight your way to a good rifle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #3 May 6, 2004 QuoteLet other people be the test jumpers Agreed.... Cypres have been proven to work time and time again....=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tinfoil 0 #4 May 6, 2004 QuoteQuoteLet other people be the test jumpers Agreed.... Cypres have been proven to work time and time again.... Cypress 1 that is “- - Sumo is the greatest of sports. It has power, grace, speed and cluture. And most importantly, two fat bastards smacking the shit out of each other. ” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #5 May 6, 2004 I would also say a Cypres1. Let both Cypres2 and Vigil get better with time. In 1 or 2 years time they will be perfectscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pkasdorf 0 #6 May 6, 2004 They are probably both great but only one has proven background. Today I would buy a Cypres 2 because of that. In two or three years from now, if everything goes as expected I would buy the cheaper one. HISPA # 18 POPS # 8757 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 2 #7 May 6, 2004 I read that a whole batch of Vigils were recalled due to them firing at innappropriate times, on the ground and in the air. This was found to be resulting from static discharege I believe. Still too new and having all the bugs worked out. I'd go with the Cypres.__ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vt1977 0 #8 May 6, 2004 I just bought a new AAD to go in my new rig and I went with the Cypres 2 – tried and tested technology. Vicki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tinfoil 0 #9 May 6, 2004 Don't forget that while the Cypres 2 was made by a company that has had success with an earlier product, it is still a completely new product. I mean, the 71 Pinto was made by a tried and tested company, Ford. If you don't want to be a test jumper, the Cypres 1 is the only way to go. “- - Sumo is the greatest of sports. It has power, grace, speed and cluture. And most importantly, two fat bastards smacking the shit out of each other. ” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vt1977 0 #10 May 6, 2004 I may be wrong here, but I’m under the impression that you can no longer buy a brand new original Cypres. Therefore it seems to me that you have a straight choice, if buying new, between Cypres 2 or Vigil. I went with the Cypres 2 because I reckon Airtec know a thing or two about making AADs by now… Vicki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #11 May 6, 2004 There appear to be major problems with the Vigil right now, so if you're in the market for an ADD and need to buy NOW, then the choice is clear. Buy a Cypres. If you're buying a year from now, I would wait a year and re-evaluate. It's very likely that Vigil will have fixed their problems by then, the only issue is if they have any credibility left when that time comes. Time will tell. As for now, it'd not be smart to buy an ADD with known issues. The Cypres2 does not have any known issues, and the Vigil does. Buy the Cypres2. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #12 May 6, 2004 QuoteThere appear to be major problems with the Vigil right now, so if you're in the market for an ADD and need to buy NOW, then the choice is clear. Buy an ADD. I assume you mean to buy a CYPRES. QuoteAs for now, it'd not be smart to buy an ADD with known issues. The Cypres2 does not have any known issues, and the Vigil does. The CYPRES 2 has an issue with the readout and static...However it just makes the unit not show anything on the screen, not fire it. The new CYPRES 2's should all be fixed, but you never know."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #13 May 7, 2004 Thanks for the post. I'm also looking to get an AAD and was wondering about the Vigil and Cypress. One more question though. What's the difference between 2 pin and one pin Cypress? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masher 1 #14 May 7, 2004 For one and two pin reserves. I've got a racer, so I've got a two pin cypres.-- Arching is overrated - Marlies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #15 May 7, 2004 Just a little question, not meaning to hijack... What about the Astra ???Is it not very developed in the USA ???scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcwitteveen 0 #16 May 7, 2004 Did not it had the same problems at the Vigil? Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
extreme 0 #17 May 7, 2004 I would buy Cypress2 because I don't think they would compromize their product and release new instrument with any major problem. As far as I'm concirned, I will not buy AAD because I think I'm safer without it. It is one more thing to care about and up there I want things as simple as possible but who knows one day ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #18 May 7, 2004 The Astra had some issues with fires...Not sure what they all were. Some liked the control unit being easy to get to, and some didn't. Some liked the fact that you can turn it off under canopy...But you also had to turn it of at the end of the day of you ran the battery down. There was no battery check on it...The batteries just died one day, and you replaced them. It never lived up to the hype."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chrisky 0 #19 May 8, 2004 Well, considering that Airtec doesn't sell Cypres 1 anymore and basically the Cypres 2 has the same features plus longer battery life and a new filter that can resist water for 15 minutes, i don't think that they messed with the other proven technology too much... Even less designed a new AAD from scratch... So just because a car has new tires and tinted windows, it's not a "completely new design"... Maybe it's just me, but i didn't see any problems with cypres 2 except for a bad batch of lcd screens from a subcontractor... No functional flaws in any units so far. And i don't expect any. Correct me if i'm wrong. Considering the way Airtech adressed actual and so-called misfires in the past, and still waiting for any word on the in-air fires of the vigil, i'd stick with an Airtech product, series 1 or 2...The mind is like a parachute - it only works once it's open. From the edge you just see more. ... Not every Swooper hooks & not every Hooker swoops ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chrisky 0 #20 May 8, 2004 QuoteThe CYPRES 2 has an issue with the readout and static...However it just makes the unit not show anything on the screen, not fire it Wasn't that just an issue with a bad batch of screens? (The unit stayed operational) I got mine pretty much right around the time the issue came up and mine never blanked... Now if i had a link to that service bulletin... Ok, found the thing... Wasn't a bulletin. So it was not a bad batch, but still i got my cypres about a month prior to this (linked)statement and never had a problem. It is no problem anyhow as the unit works no matter what. (No misfires...) Just pay attention to the last few lines as well... http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_threaded;post=693492;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;The mind is like a parachute - it only works once it's open. From the edge you just see more. ... Not every Swooper hooks & not every Hooker swoops ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #21 May 8, 2004 QuoteWasn't that just an issue with a bad batch of screens? (The unit stayed operational) I got mine pretty much right around the time the issue came up and mine never blanked... Now if i had a link to that service bulletin... Yep thats it...Not a BIG issue, but still an issue."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
