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Has anyone here tried the EXT option? I'm 6'3" / 6'4" and thought it sounded like a nice idea. I've also had problems with my current jav's main closing flap opening if the closing loop isn't extra tight, so I'm keen on the wings version.

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Up-facing main pin flaps are infinitely more secure than "tuck under" varieties,


It should be noted that not all "tuck under" pin cover flaps are created equal, and done properly could be argued to be more secure than the up-tuck pincover.

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I have an EXT. I like the way it fits better, longer and sleeker.

There is a problem though with my set up. I originally had a FF handle. The EXT bottom, at least on mine, is very, very narrow and tight and it did not allow the handle to be tucked away with ease. I solved the problem by replacing it with a monkey fist hackey. By the way the Wings is now my dedicated WS rig and I use the S3 PC pouch.

Get the cordura PC pouch and the cut in laterals, you won't regret it.
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It should be noted that not all "tuck under" pin cover flaps are created equal, and done properly could be argued to be more secure than the up-tuck pincover.



Absofreakinlutly!

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I've never had an Infinity Flap come open before deployment.
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Based on your measurements and supplied canopy choices they will make it an EXT automatically if necessary. It's not a pay-for option, just a longer container design if i got them right on their website and when i ordered it last fall.
Mine is EXT, because it's a 120 M/135 R and i'm 5'6".
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Up-facing main pin flaps are infinitely more secure than "tuck under



After seeing many upfacing tuck flaps open in freefall I only agree with that on certain designs versus other certain designs.

Infinity makes the most secure tuck under flap design I've seen yet. I put my money on the Infinity.
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Up-facing main pin flaps are infinitely more secure than "tuck under" varieties,

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It should be noted that not all "tuck under" pin cover flaps are created equal, and done properly could be argued to be more secure than the up-tuck pincover.



Well said, Kelly (without putting down another mfg.) Infinity advertising asserts that your tuck under flap design is not dependant on the closing loop length, and I have found this to be true. The tuck flap is part of, and engages the top flap, so this makes sense.

I don't see how some can be so sure that an up-tuck design is more secure. If something rubs against/down your container there is no tab to prevent it from being pulled out of its slot. Only the stiffness and overlap of the tab keeps it in place. I just don't see how it is infinitely more secure (at least compared to an Infinity ;).
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It should be noted that not all "tuck under" pin cover flaps are created equal, and done properly could be argued to be more secure than the up-tuck pincover.



Absofreakinlutly!

:D

I've never had an Infinity Flap come open before deployment.



I, on the other hand, have. I have seen my buddy Scott Sheck's (Infinity) main flap flippity-flapping throughout entire skydives, but it's a "larger" rig. Again, on smaller, tight-closing rigs I have not seen this problem (neither post-98 Jav nor Infinity), but I have definitely seen it on every type of larger "tuck under" container. Either way, it was never an issue on any of the rigs I have owned in the last decade due to their compactness. True, any rig whether up-facing or tuck can be so sloppy that this can occur, but every instance of flap coming unsecured I have witnessed has been with tuck-under flaps.

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It's interesting that you got one, the website says it's only for people over 5'10".



Well, it's more comfortable for people over 5'10" in reaching for the hackey, but it's made for people that have large differences in square footage between their main and reserve canopies, or for those who just like the look of a longer, narrower, sleeker container.

My primary rig is a "non-EXT" Wings... I fly a Velocity 90 main with a Tempo 120 reserve in that one. I'm 5'11". I prefer a shorter rig and thus chose not to get an EXT for my primary rig.

However, my Birdman / back-up Rig is an EXT because 1) it's much easier to get to my hackey...Wingsuit's Wings restrict how high up my back I can reach. 2) I fly a Xaos-27 93 main with a Tempo 150 Reserve. And 3) it presents a much more aerodynamic surface in forward flight, thus helping to optimise my wingsuit flights.

I hope this helps clarify the EXT vs non EXT Wings Choice. Which ever you choose, you'll be happy with a Wings...hell, I liked my first one so much, I became a dealer for them!;)

Cheers!

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