bigdsky 0 #1 June 26, 2004 anyones opinion is it better to put rig through as baggage or get sports equipment ticket and how do i go about getting this from ryan air.i went to empuria and got stung £90 on return Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoter 0 #2 June 26, 2004 I put mine through as checked baggage.... Tell them...nay ...point out very clearly its sports equipment. Ryan Air charge a £15 'each way fee for this Problem is ...if (like my rig) its in a 'regular' hard suitcase...they simply wont believe you thats its 'sports equipment' and so will try and rip you off by paying the excess weight as regular luggage ( which is tons more expensive) Do it right the worst it should cost you for a return journey is 30 quid...less if you have a sympathetic check in gal DO make sure you give ya self some extra time at check in...'you will need it Do make sure you have some kinda documentation on ya hardbag ( eg Cypres X ray picture) to highlight it is not just regular baggage...or they might ask you to 'show them' your sports equipment...and open it up. DONT take any shit...it IS sports equipment....and rules are rules...yeah so its not a freakin tennis racquet or something....but its YOUR sports equipment DO consider Easyjet....never had a problem or had to pay excess... DO have fun at Emp.B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BASE813 0 #3 June 27, 2004 Ryan Air truely suck shit............. dont even try and argue as all you get is a robot repeating the same line over and over again........ I took my BASE rig as hand luggage and had no problems, but we had problems with the camera equipement and some batteries! Expect to always get stung for excess baggage! .......... do you remember the disabled guy who was changed for a wheelchair at departure and then arrivals to get to and from the aircraft! fucking outrageous! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bdev 0 #4 June 28, 2004 I'm heading out this weekend with Ryanair...got an email saying they've increased the hand-baggage limit to 10kg (was7kg) Gonna try and carry it on this time...fingers crossed! --- One life...Use it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RainbowSmurf 0 #5 June 29, 2004 I phoned Ryanair before we flew to Spain in March and I was informed that parachutes are not sports equipment as they will fit into a normal bag. I think it depends on who you talk to at Ryanair. (In the end we left our rigs here and hired gear out there. Weather was useless anyway! )I am my inner child. It's my outer adult I have trouble connecting with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ps5601 0 #6 June 29, 2004 RyanAir state that you get an extra 10Kg for £15 for sports equipment. They do not state (in writing) what sports equipment is, so stand there and argue (as long as you are not late for your flight). On the other hand, they do state that, unless you tell them in advance they can't guarantee space for sports equipment, and that you won't pay excess baggage. For Empuria, fly EasyJet to Barcelona, further to the DZ, but beats RyanAir. (You get 10Kg sports allowance for free with EasyJet, and they have no problems with parachutes being sports equipment) Blue Skies Paul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zoter 0 #7 June 29, 2004 Your right....but keep saying its a sport parachute and that it really is sports equipment for that sport !! I didnt ring ahead....and I dont think the peeps on check in are not really gonna contest the above...especially if it is in its 'own' specific bag...they just want to get onto the next person in the queue. That said I agree with whats been said.....simply dont take no for an answer if they contest its sports equipment.... Sorry to hear about the weather.....where were you??Empuria....Lillo...Seville? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zoter 0 #8 July 1, 2004 Just to add....if you are worried about them 'not ' accepting your sports equipment....just make damn sure you are near the front of the line at check in.....they are less likely to argue with you than if you are the last in the line... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites roo 0 #9 July 3, 2004 QuoteRyanAir state that you get an extra 10Kg for £15 for sports equipment. They do not state (in writing) what sports equipment is, so stand there and argue (as long as you are not late for your flight). On the other hand, they do state that, unless you tell them in advance they can't guarantee space for sports equipment, and that you won't pay excess baggage. For Empuria, fly EasyJet to Barcelona, further to the DZ, but beats RyanAir. (You get 10Kg sports allowance for free with EasyJet, and they have no problems with parachutes being sports equipment) Blue Skies Paul Hi there I've flown out to Empuri twice this year (from Bournemouth) and on both occassions i booked the sports equipment option by phone (£30 return up to 30kg) after booking my tickets online and have had no problems at check in here or in Spain. I think that as long as you plan ahead and let them know in advance(and pay the £15 e/w) they shouldn't have any problems with carrying parachutes. Hope this helps, if not PM me and i'll be able to provide more info/support letters. Roo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bdev 0 #10 July 12, 2004 Just got back after a 10 day trip....Liverpool to Girona on Ryan air... Walked on with the rig with no problems either way...the security guys at Liverpool had a bit of a discussion between them and then decided they could let it on. Didn't even have it in a bag, just tied my reserve handle up and wore it over my shoulders...cool!--- One life...Use it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #11 July 12, 2004 QuoteDidn't even have it in a bag, just tied my reserve handle up and wore it over my shoulders...cool! Please don't do this. It just makes it that much more agrivating for the rest of us. Put it in a bag.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bdev 0 #12 July 13, 2004 Why try and hide it in a bag ? wear it like a backpack and the vast majority of people won't even know what it is... ..Try and hide things in a bag and I think you're going to be more liable to be stopped and have things looked at when they see it under x-ray.--- One life...Use it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #13 July 13, 2004 Because wuffos, and security are not a dumb as you think, and if there is one thing buracrats hate it's having their nose tweeked buy someone who "know's the rules". Playing nice with them helps us all. A couple of years ago there was an airline that made it a blanket policy that no parachutes could be carried on their aircraft. It was in response to some "know-it-all" skydivers who arrived lat, and unpacked at the airport. When they were told they would have to check their luggage because the carry on's were too big, the proceeded to pack in the terminal. Fortunately the airline relented a few months later. We don't need any more black eyes. A gear bag protects the rig, and is a good thing for getting along with the wuffos. Trust me you don't have to "impress" everybody.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #14 July 13, 2004 You make a good point! The less said, the better. A couple years ago, one of our jumpers was going to fly to a DZ in Arizona. She asked me about the best way to get her rig there with her. I suggested putting it in a good suitcase or gear bag and check it it with her other luggage and not to say anything. She was quite insistant about 'carrying it on'. She called the airline and told them her intentions as well as a long conversation about her Cypres. She actually took her rig to the airport so the airline could run it through their X-Ray machine and etc. A call was made to the airline's head office. By the time it was all over, she wound-up driving to Ariz. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bdev 0 #15 July 13, 2004 QuoteBecause wuffos, and security are not a dumb as you think, and if there is one thing buracrats hate it's having their nose tweeked buy someone who "know's the rules". Playing nice with them helps us all. A gear bag protects the rig, and is a good thing for getting along with the wuffos. Trust me you don't have to "impress" everybody. Ok, firstly. what gives you the impression I'm out to impress anybody? - if it's the 'cool' statement in my post, then it was meant as a 'cool..that was easy and I had no problems' - not as a 'Whoa dude, look at me I'm a skydiver'. If airline/security policy allows rigs on board, why try and hide it? - by hiding it inside another bag, your almost inviting a search when it goes through security. - 'Playing nice' to me doesn't include hiding things in bags. 'Playing nice' is being honest about what you are taking on board, and having some documentation to back you up should they start to question things. You also make it sound like a wuffo vs skydiver war..ok, I've only been in the 'sport' for a year or so, but I've yet to experience any such attitude...do you expect people to be scared of you because you skydive ?--- One life...Use it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Clarkey 0 #16 July 14, 2004 Some extra info on easyJet who I have flown with to Barcelona for Empuria... their extra sports allowance is 10kg on top of the usual 20kg (with no extra charge, subject to available space) - I've never had a problem claiming this free extra allowance at either end (I usually check in my rig in a trolley bag that I use for my rig and lead which comes to about 10kg in total) - but the latest news from easyJet is even better: Quote: "easyJet today announces another pioneering development by introducing Europe's most generous hand baggage allowance. It will be better than that offered by any other airline in Europe - even the Club Class allowances of the dinosaur national airlines! From Monday 12 July 2004 easyJet is removing the weight restriction on hand baggage for all passengers. The only stipulation is that you must be able to lift your bag safely into the overhead lockers yourself without assistance (or giving yourself a hernia!), so the weight must be within reason. In order to comply with safety regulations of the UK Civil Aviation Authority, and to reflect the limited space in the overhead storage bins, there will be a size limit, which means that your bag must not be bigger than 55x40x20 cm - but this is 40% bigger than the current allowance! Our fantastic new hand baggage rules will give passengers the freedom to carry more than they can on the Club Class of traditional airlines - but without the extortionate fares! This new allowance will be particularly attractive to easyJet's many business passengers who already fly with Europe's number one low-cost airline, benefiting from conveniently located city airports (not airstrips miles away), 30 minute check-in times, high-frequency routes, great punctuality, and some of Europe's lowest fares!" 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BASE813 0 #3 June 27, 2004 Ryan Air truely suck shit............. dont even try and argue as all you get is a robot repeating the same line over and over again........ I took my BASE rig as hand luggage and had no problems, but we had problems with the camera equipement and some batteries! Expect to always get stung for excess baggage! .......... do you remember the disabled guy who was changed for a wheelchair at departure and then arrivals to get to and from the aircraft! fucking outrageous! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdev 0 #4 June 28, 2004 I'm heading out this weekend with Ryanair...got an email saying they've increased the hand-baggage limit to 10kg (was7kg) Gonna try and carry it on this time...fingers crossed! --- One life...Use it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RainbowSmurf 0 #5 June 29, 2004 I phoned Ryanair before we flew to Spain in March and I was informed that parachutes are not sports equipment as they will fit into a normal bag. I think it depends on who you talk to at Ryanair. (In the end we left our rigs here and hired gear out there. Weather was useless anyway! )I am my inner child. It's my outer adult I have trouble connecting with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ps5601 0 #6 June 29, 2004 RyanAir state that you get an extra 10Kg for £15 for sports equipment. They do not state (in writing) what sports equipment is, so stand there and argue (as long as you are not late for your flight). On the other hand, they do state that, unless you tell them in advance they can't guarantee space for sports equipment, and that you won't pay excess baggage. For Empuria, fly EasyJet to Barcelona, further to the DZ, but beats RyanAir. (You get 10Kg sports allowance for free with EasyJet, and they have no problems with parachutes being sports equipment) Blue Skies Paul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoter 0 #7 June 29, 2004 Your right....but keep saying its a sport parachute and that it really is sports equipment for that sport !! I didnt ring ahead....and I dont think the peeps on check in are not really gonna contest the above...especially if it is in its 'own' specific bag...they just want to get onto the next person in the queue. That said I agree with whats been said.....simply dont take no for an answer if they contest its sports equipment.... Sorry to hear about the weather.....where were you??Empuria....Lillo...Seville? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoter 0 #8 July 1, 2004 Just to add....if you are worried about them 'not ' accepting your sports equipment....just make damn sure you are near the front of the line at check in.....they are less likely to argue with you than if you are the last in the line... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roo 0 #9 July 3, 2004 QuoteRyanAir state that you get an extra 10Kg for £15 for sports equipment. They do not state (in writing) what sports equipment is, so stand there and argue (as long as you are not late for your flight). On the other hand, they do state that, unless you tell them in advance they can't guarantee space for sports equipment, and that you won't pay excess baggage. For Empuria, fly EasyJet to Barcelona, further to the DZ, but beats RyanAir. (You get 10Kg sports allowance for free with EasyJet, and they have no problems with parachutes being sports equipment) Blue Skies Paul Hi there I've flown out to Empuri twice this year (from Bournemouth) and on both occassions i booked the sports equipment option by phone (£30 return up to 30kg) after booking my tickets online and have had no problems at check in here or in Spain. I think that as long as you plan ahead and let them know in advance(and pay the £15 e/w) they shouldn't have any problems with carrying parachutes. Hope this helps, if not PM me and i'll be able to provide more info/support letters. Roo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdev 0 #10 July 12, 2004 Just got back after a 10 day trip....Liverpool to Girona on Ryan air... Walked on with the rig with no problems either way...the security guys at Liverpool had a bit of a discussion between them and then decided they could let it on. Didn't even have it in a bag, just tied my reserve handle up and wore it over my shoulders...cool!--- One life...Use it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #11 July 12, 2004 QuoteDidn't even have it in a bag, just tied my reserve handle up and wore it over my shoulders...cool! Please don't do this. It just makes it that much more agrivating for the rest of us. Put it in a bag.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdev 0 #12 July 13, 2004 Why try and hide it in a bag ? wear it like a backpack and the vast majority of people won't even know what it is... ..Try and hide things in a bag and I think you're going to be more liable to be stopped and have things looked at when they see it under x-ray.--- One life...Use it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #13 July 13, 2004 Because wuffos, and security are not a dumb as you think, and if there is one thing buracrats hate it's having their nose tweeked buy someone who "know's the rules". Playing nice with them helps us all. A couple of years ago there was an airline that made it a blanket policy that no parachutes could be carried on their aircraft. It was in response to some "know-it-all" skydivers who arrived lat, and unpacked at the airport. When they were told they would have to check their luggage because the carry on's were too big, the proceeded to pack in the terminal. Fortunately the airline relented a few months later. We don't need any more black eyes. A gear bag protects the rig, and is a good thing for getting along with the wuffos. Trust me you don't have to "impress" everybody.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #14 July 13, 2004 You make a good point! The less said, the better. A couple years ago, one of our jumpers was going to fly to a DZ in Arizona. She asked me about the best way to get her rig there with her. I suggested putting it in a good suitcase or gear bag and check it it with her other luggage and not to say anything. She was quite insistant about 'carrying it on'. She called the airline and told them her intentions as well as a long conversation about her Cypres. She actually took her rig to the airport so the airline could run it through their X-Ray machine and etc. A call was made to the airline's head office. By the time it was all over, she wound-up driving to Ariz. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdev 0 #15 July 13, 2004 QuoteBecause wuffos, and security are not a dumb as you think, and if there is one thing buracrats hate it's having their nose tweeked buy someone who "know's the rules". Playing nice with them helps us all. A gear bag protects the rig, and is a good thing for getting along with the wuffos. Trust me you don't have to "impress" everybody. Ok, firstly. what gives you the impression I'm out to impress anybody? - if it's the 'cool' statement in my post, then it was meant as a 'cool..that was easy and I had no problems' - not as a 'Whoa dude, look at me I'm a skydiver'. If airline/security policy allows rigs on board, why try and hide it? - by hiding it inside another bag, your almost inviting a search when it goes through security. - 'Playing nice' to me doesn't include hiding things in bags. 'Playing nice' is being honest about what you are taking on board, and having some documentation to back you up should they start to question things. You also make it sound like a wuffo vs skydiver war..ok, I've only been in the 'sport' for a year or so, but I've yet to experience any such attitude...do you expect people to be scared of you because you skydive ?--- One life...Use it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clarkey 0 #16 July 14, 2004 Some extra info on easyJet who I have flown with to Barcelona for Empuria... their extra sports allowance is 10kg on top of the usual 20kg (with no extra charge, subject to available space) - I've never had a problem claiming this free extra allowance at either end (I usually check in my rig in a trolley bag that I use for my rig and lead which comes to about 10kg in total) - but the latest news from easyJet is even better: Quote: "easyJet today announces another pioneering development by introducing Europe's most generous hand baggage allowance. It will be better than that offered by any other airline in Europe - even the Club Class allowances of the dinosaur national airlines! From Monday 12 July 2004 easyJet is removing the weight restriction on hand baggage for all passengers. The only stipulation is that you must be able to lift your bag safely into the overhead lockers yourself without assistance (or giving yourself a hernia!), so the weight must be within reason. In order to comply with safety regulations of the UK Civil Aviation Authority, and to reflect the limited space in the overhead storage bins, there will be a size limit, which means that your bag must not be bigger than 55x40x20 cm - but this is 40% bigger than the current allowance! Our fantastic new hand baggage rules will give passengers the freedom to carry more than they can on the Club Class of traditional airlines - but without the extortionate fares! This new allowance will be particularly attractive to easyJet's many business passengers who already fly with Europe's number one low-cost airline, benefiting from conveniently located city airports (not airstrips miles away), 30 minute check-in times, high-frequency routes, great punctuality, and some of Europe's lowest fares!" Taken from: http://easyjet.co.uk/EN/news/20040705_01.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
