skajdajver 0 #1 August 6, 2004 Hi I am going to buy a new container. I´ve tried the Aerodyne Icon and liked it. But im not sure that it will be my choise. I´ve seen a container from the Russian company ParaAvis. Its called Element and is pretty much exactly the same container as the Icon. Anyone know anything about Element? Off all things to believe in - why not yourself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelflying 0 #2 August 6, 2004 Get a VortexII with the exchange rate you will get a great deal If you want more info go to their web site or ask I will give it to you.www.skydivekzn.co.za Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #3 August 6, 2004 I know I see a few things wrong on the Icon, because a lot of the very new ones came to our DZ when the rig was 1st released. Is your only purpose on these forums to slate the Icon and push the Vortex 2? All rigs have their problems. It's how the company responds to those problems that defines their customer service. My experiences with Chute Shop (I have yet to deal with "Parachute Systems") as a customer have been simply dreadful. I know of Icons from our DZ which have been returned to the factory after being built "bent" and are being replaced. That's service, but you won't get it if you don't ask for it. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DancingFlame 0 #4 August 6, 2004 Element rocks! Element comes first, about 2 years ago. So, actually, it is Icon looking like Element. Fully equipped Element (4 rings, all stainless hardware, deluxe backpad etc.) costs about $1100 (only $800 without rings and stainless). I have 200 jumps with my Element and it still looks like new. I can make some pictures this weekend if you like. We have more than 50 Element H/Cs at Aerograd. It definitely worth the money it costs. Feel free to ask questions! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #5 August 6, 2004 Is the Element TSO'd for useage in the US?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DancingFlame 0 #6 August 9, 2004 I believe it's not. Does it matter? it's solid rig, it is built with care. It's safe and comfortable. It's not too expensive. The only disadvantage, you'll have to wait for 8-12 weeks to get one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skajdajver 0 #7 August 9, 2004 Hi Well i´ve seen one Element container but haven´t jumped it. Tried it on thou and it was really comfy. Probably wont need those chestrings. Has there been any problems with the Element containers at your DZ? Problems with fit, riser cover coming open, hardware och fabric problems or anything else? Everyone at my DZ uses Odessey or Micron containers. But i cant see the point in paying $700 extra if there are no problems with the Element. Off all things to believe in - why not yourself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #8 August 9, 2004 QuoteI believe it's not. Does it matter? It does if you live in the US.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DancingFlame 0 #9 August 10, 2004 QuoteWell i´ve seen one Element container but haven´t jumped it. Tried it on thou and it was really comfy. Probably wont need those chestrings. Just don't put chest ring in order form. Without chest rings and stainless hardware I believe Element will cost ~$1000. QuoteHas there been any problems with the Element containers at your DZ? Problems with fit, riser cover coming open, hardware och fabric problems or anything else? I heard of one problem found during manufacturer tests (reserve container did not open after Cypres fire - noone get hurt, just a metal anvil hit the ground and made a lot of dust popped). But that has been corrected prior to going on market. Never heard about any problems with fit, riser covers or something else. Maria Riabikova (world champion in skysurfing) made more than 1000 jumps with Element container and it still performs good! (though looks a bit dirty ) QuoteEveryone at my DZ uses Odessey or Micron containers. But i cant see the point in paying $700 extra if there are no problems with the Element. Ay my DZ (Aerograd Kolomna) most people uses Element and Spirit containers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeFe 0 #10 August 10, 2004 QuoteBut that has been corrected prior to going on market. Yes it was corrected but no, it happened well after the rig hit the market. They had to do total recall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nebonyr 0 #11 August 14, 2004 If I'm not mistaken Element is a modified Spirit container and as reads the Element order form in .pdf (www.parashop.ru) - "Spirit harnes/container system is manufactured under FAA TSO 23c category D". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chileanXaos 0 #12 August 16, 2004 does someone have pics from it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raistlin 0 #13 August 16, 2004 http://parashop.kiev.ua/img_site/harness/Rigs_element1.jpg http://www.dropzone.ru/images/paraavis/Spirit-Element.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DancingFlame 0 #14 September 2, 2004 One more pic. My rig. That's me behind it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chileanXaos 0 #15 September 5, 2004 looks really nice rig Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
