Monkey Fist or Hackey ?

[Phillbo 11]

What are the pros and cons of each ? If any .....

[SkydiveMO 0]

Nope no pros or cons with safety or use, just a matter of looks and price.

[FrogNog 1]

And what you like. I like a bigger handle, personally.

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[johnny1488 1]

I am very happy with the monkey fist that I bought from Skycat (kelli)

I like the feel of it especially in winter with gloves.

Johnny
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[mr2mk1g 10]

A rigger once told me he did not recommend monkey's fists and wouldn't sell them at his loft. His point was the ball would oscillate in the airflow and the extra weight combined with a lose BOC pocket could pull the pilot chute out and cause a premature. Apparently he’d seen it before and wanted to warn people of the problem.

That said; no one else seems to agree that it’s a problem and whilst I see exactly what he’s on about, another answer to the problem would be to properly maintain your BOC.

[meatbomb 0]

Same goes for hackeys, which is why the only throwaway choice for me would be a PVC toggle...it stays put...

Edited to add: I jump a pull-out pud... The Wings has a similar handle which stays put for throwaway...like Matt says below...

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[mr2mk1g 10]

Or a pud... I went for pud which stays attached to the rig exactly where I put it.

[LivingLegend 0]

Just after I did AFF I went for my PVC toggle and got my thumb stuck down the middle of the tube.
I had to let go, go back to to stable flat and retry.

I always wondered if this wasnt a dangersous design?

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[Tonto 1]

The lighter the handle on your PC is, the safer it is, both from an intentional and avoiding unintentional deployment point of view.

I have PVC toggle or Freefly handles on my rigs. Best I ever saw was a practice golf ball as a handle. Light, but with none of the "thumb stuck" possibilities (which one has to confess is pretty hard to do..)

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[riggerrob 643]

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The lighter the handle on your PC is, the safer it is, both from an intentional and avoiding unintentional deployment point of view.

I have PVC toggle or Freefly handles on my rigs. Best I ever saw was a practice golf ball as a handle. Light, but with none of the "thumb stuck" possibilities (which one has to confess is pretty hard to do..)

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Agreed.
All our Student Sidewinders have plastic "wiffle balls" (practice golf balls) on their main pilot chutes.

One of my rigs has a monkey-fist (that I tied) and my other rig has a PVC pipe.

Some of the newer, stiffer freefly handles are mighty fine.
I base my decisions on whether I can locate a handle - by feel - while wearing my winter gloves.
Hint: I have frozen my fingers so many times that my sense of touch is not very good on cold days.

I always thought that hacky handles were a silly fashion statement, but I guess it depends on what you are used to.
For example, I was mighty glad when (circa 1988) Strong Enterprises replaced their silly soft drogue handle with a piece of PVC pipe wrapped in Cordura.
Maybe I am just too old a dog to learn new tricks.
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[LivingLegend 0]

Oh, that sounds perfect.
Golf being such a shit game thats a much better use for my practice golf balls.
How can it be safely attached ?

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