hookitt 1 #26 March 22, 2006 No, that shouldn't be any consideration. The coating makes the lines easier to handle and that's about it. PD lines have a softer feel to them but structurally they are just as strong. I use a PD reserve and still recommend them even though I prefer the coated line.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rigger_john 0 #27 March 22, 2006 I have seen several (3) PdF reserves with the lines coming out of the free bag stuck together, that said, they seperated with only very light pressure. I contacted an Advanced Rigger (Master) I knew, who also was a PdF dealer when I found this problem. He said that it was due to heat, (car trunk?) but that the lines would not be sticky enought to affect deployment. I understand that he got that info from the manufacture._________________________________________ Nullius in Verba Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #28 March 22, 2006 I too have seen this happen only once, and it was on a paratec (Speed?) reserve. It was packed for 6 months and felt like the lines were stuck together. I contacted paratec and they said it was perfectly normal. I have opened reserves we see on this side of the pond more oftenthat were packed for much longer and never seen a problem with tackyness. I really prefer the coated lines for packing and wear characteristics. The next reserve to hit the market is also going to have these lines on it. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #29 March 22, 2006 Quote what is it exactly you dont like about PD reserve lines? should i seriously consider this when buying a reserve? (i mean, so many people have PDs) Caspar, Do not let this discussion deter you from buying the PD Reserve as it is a great reserve. But... The lines are disliked by many riggers as they are not coated and are easier to be damaged by hook Velcro. I own many of these reserves, I just hate the lines! MELSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caspar 0 #30 March 23, 2006 thanks for the replies! one thing ive definitely learnt from this thread is dont get a white reserve so you guys can better inspect the canopy and lines. (i dont care what colour a reserve is aslong as it works). yellow it is! thanks again. caspar"When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fcajump 164 #31 March 23, 2006 Quotethanks for the replies! one thing ive definitely learnt from this thread is dont get a white reserve so you guys can better inspect the canopy and lines. (i dont care what colour a reserve is aslong as it works). yellow it is! Getting off thread a little, but one other thing to consider when picking a reserve... I knew someone that ordered a custom color reserve (at extra expense I think) to match her gear. One afternoon she had a mal on her main and cut-away. The jumpers in the air wanted to give extra room to the person under the reserve and the crew on the ground wanted to go out and lend a hand in case the jumper had additional problems... only problem was until she was on final (and we could see no pilot chute in trail) that we even knew which multi-colored canopy was in fact the reserve. It was only because we knew how many jumpers were on the load that we knew the cut-away jumper had not gone in. My recommendation is that reserves should be solid color and either white, yellow or orange. This makes it clear to all that there is a jumper who is not having "just another skydive". (white is fine IF the thead is a contrasting color) Jim PS - I bought a used rig with a very fine Raven II in it... while I believe the above discussion on visible solid colors, Neon PINK would NOT have been my first choice... Always remember that some clouds are harder than others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #32 March 23, 2006 QuoteI bet Tonto's thinking about opening shock. You bet wrong. He's thinking about the lower melting point of Spectra as opposed to Dacron or Kevlar. That's after an incident at his home DZ where a reserve was deployed into a pilot-chute-in-tow malfunction, and one line group of the reserve was completely severed. Details in this thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicknitro71 0 #33 March 23, 2006 QuoteHe's thinking about the lower melting point of Spectra as opposed to Dacron or Kevlar. That's after an incident at his home DZ where a reserve was deployed into a pilot-chute-in-tow malfunction, and one line group of the reserve was completely severed. Interesting...are you sure that was due to the heat generated and not the mechanical force? By the way I am not a fan of Spectra by any means. To me the best two choices are HMA and Dacron depending on the application.Memento Audere Semper 903 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #34 March 23, 2006 There have only been two Service Bulletins issued about coated reserve suspension lines. In 1979, Strong Enterprises issued SB-2 for sticky suspension lines on LoPo (round) reserves. It allowed for field riggers to wash excess latex off of suspension lines. In the late 1990s, SEI issued a second SB relating to excess coating on Stellar (square) reserve suspension lines. Don't worry too much about reserve suspension lines ticking together because manufacturers are aware of the problem and keep a close eye on it. Trust me, if the FAA thought that sticky suspension lines were increasing opening times, they would be all over it like vultures on road kill! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ernokaikkonen 0 #35 March 23, 2006 QuoteInteresting...are you sure that was due to the heat generated and not the mechanical force? Am I sure? No. I haven't seen the gear. However, this is from Tonto's post I linked to: QuoteThe reserve front left linegroup is severed as a result of a friction burn about 6 inches above the reserve front left riser. You'll have to ask him if you want anything more specific. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fcajump 164 #36 March 27, 2006 QuoteIn 1979, Strong Enterprises issued SB-2 for sticky suspension lines on LoPo (round) reserves. It allowed for field riggers to wash excess latex off of suspension lines. In the late 1990s, SEI issued a second SB relating to excess coating on Stellar (square) reserve suspension lines. Rob, Do you have a copy of the two SB's? Thanks, JimAlways remember that some clouds are harder than others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #37 March 27, 2006 The later SB (#20) is on the Strong website. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
