billvon 3,063 #26 September 15, 2004 >Like all manufactuers demo lines, there were a couple demos out there > that took a beating and developed some nasty habits . . . This one had three jumps on it. But like I said, they may have fixed whatever led to that problem to begin with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZag 0 #27 October 6, 2004 since "Technora" has great dimensional stability in regards to shrinkage and stretch. "Technora" also does not display the abrasive characteristics of "Vectran"(tm), which in turn allows the mfg to use brass grommets for the slider. A broken line on a noncascaded lineset will not impact performance as much as on a cascaded lineset, since you are only loosing one attachment point under the canopy. It can make a difference. Since a "Technora" lineset will not go out of trim, similar to "Vectran", care must be taken to monitor the wear and tear of the lines, as the end of useful life of the lineset does not manifest itself as with "Spectra". Cascaded linesets made of "Technora" are used in competition swooping, but linesets are usually replaced within 100 jumps, as the cascade wears dramatically. The stitching of the cascade also influences the longevity of the lineset, ie., the use of a bartack versus a straight stitch. The Nitro(n) and Blade are excellent high performance canopies, like to be loaded, but then again that is dependant on the skills and experience of the jumper. Try one...you just might like it; maybe the excellent and forgiving stall characteristics might win you over, not to mention the great openings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #28 October 6, 2004 QuoteNot to mention that the "Nitron" was the first canopy to use 'HMA', otherwise known as 'Technora', for suspension lines. Correction, the Nitro was. The Nitron is a PA built version of the Nitro. Otherwise I am in complete agreement with your post. It's the direction I see suspention lines going in the future.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #29 October 6, 2004 QuoteNot to mention that the "Nitron" was the first canopy to use 'HMA', otherwise known as 'Technora', for suspension lines. I am 99% certain that the Nitro by hyper was the first to use HMA/technora DOH....JP beat me too it.... Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grosfion 0 #30 October 7, 2004 Yeh it was the Nitro that what Ziggy meant I guess. Quote I am 99% certain that the Nitro by hyper was the first to use HMA/technora And I'm 99.9% certain that the Nitro by Profile Research was the first to use HMA/technora blues Marcus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beezyshaw 0 #32 October 7, 2004 Yes, we miss Klaus very much. A really brilliant designer and a great guy. I only knew him the last few years of his life, but at Rantoul this year I heard some very funny stories about Klaus from some of his long-time friends from Europe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #33 October 8, 2004 QuoteWell, you convinced me, Bill. I called Beezy today and picked his brain. I've got a Nitro demo on its way to me. I'll post a writeup once I get some jumps on it. I almost completely forgot about this... I got a Nitro 150 from Beezy as there was no 170 available from HiPer like there is from Precision. My normal canopy is a Stiletto 190 loaded at ~1.4, and I've had more than a few jumps on a CF@-169 and some other 170's. I decided what the heck and tried out the 150, which I put 9 jumps on. Packing was super easy, but since it uses non-cascaded lines I was really careful about making sure all those lines stayed in the center of the pack job. I used my normal psycho-pack. Openings were like buttah! A bit faster than my Stiletto, and way faster than the CF2, but still very nicely done. The canopy always opened on-heading and didn't hunt anywhere near as much as my Stiletto. Just a bit of hip input was all it needed. I'll skip the flight as I really have nothing to compare it to considering the wing-loading. The landings however were phenomenal. Plenty of flare and I never had to run it out, even during low winds. However, not being used to flying at 1.75 it was a bit of a trick keeping it wings-level as it really wanted to go where I told it. All in all, it's a wonderful canopy, and was really well-behaved on one wingsuit jump I took it on, but it's too much for me at my experience level right now. I could see several instances where that kind of performance could get away from me. If they had a 170 I'd be all over it like a hobo on a ham sammich. My next step will be to try the Nitron 170 from Precision.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #34 October 8, 2004 QuoteIf they had a 170 I'd be all over it like a hobo on a ham sammich. you mean like a pack of wolves on a three legged cat right?? Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #35 October 9, 2004 QuoteQuoteIf they had a 170 I'd be all over it like a hobo on a ham sammich. you mean like a pack of wolves on a three legged cat right?? Like white on rice. It was really a phenomenal wing...too bad it wasn't 20' bigger.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites