Schiaparelli lander is silent

[gowlerk 2,246]

But ESA declares success anyway!

https://www.theguardian.com/science/across-the-universe/live/2016/oct/19/mars-landing-esa-attempts-to-set-schiaparelli-probe-on-red-planet-live

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[BillyVance 34]

Freaking Europeans....

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[gowlerk 2,246]

BillyVance

Freaking Europeans....

PR firm is the same as Trump's I guess.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[muff528 3]

gowlerk

***Freaking Europeans....

PR firm is the same as Trump's I guess.

IMO, it's gonna take a heck of a lot bigger "failure" than this to tarnish their image after the Rosetta mission.

[gowlerk 2,246]

I agree. And the orbiter seems to be working. Or at least in the correct orbit. It's just that it's a funny time to be declaring success.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[AlanS 1]

gowlerk

But ESA declares success anyway!

https://www.theguardian.com/science/across-the-universe/live/2016/oct/19/mars-landing-esa-attempts-to-set-schiaparelli-probe-on-red-planet-live

So the US remains the only country to have successfully landed probes on the surface of Mars.

Russia - zero in 4 attempts*
ESA - zero in 2 attempts
Japan - zero in 1 attempt
US - 9 in 10 attempts **

* one Russian Lander communicated for 14 seconds before failing.

** We still have a rover that landed in 2003 working, so that is 20+ years of working craft on the surface.

[DanG 1]

America, FUCK YEAH!!!

- Dan G

[BillyVance 34]

DanG

America, FUCK YEAH!!!

COMING TO SAVE THE MOTHERFUCKING DAY! FUCK YEAH!

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[ryoder 1,590]

It's not dead;
It's just, uh...pining for the fjords.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[AlanS 1]

NASA seems to have landing on Mars figured out, and perhaps other organizations should just leave getting their scientific instruments on the surface up to NASA.

In this case we lost a really good microscope on the surface of Mars that could have seen bacteria in the soil. That is a huge scientific loss.

http://www.space.com/34094-microscope-seeks-biological-samples-on-mars.html

On the positive side though the orbiter is fine, and should be able to methane gas in trace amounts, which while being an indicator of life won't be the final proof we are looking for. That microscope could have been.

Also they found the crash site for the lander.

http://www.space.com/34472-exomars-mars-lander-crash-site-photos.html

[Amazon 7]

AlanS

NASA seems to have landing on Mars figured out, and perhaps other organizations should just leave getting their scientific instruments on the surface up to NASA.

In this case we lost a really good microscope on the surface of Mars that could have seen bacteria in the soil. That is a huge scientific loss.

http://www.space.com/34094-microscope-seeks-biological-samples-on-mars.html

On the positive side though the orbiter is fine, and should be able to methane gas in trace amounts, which while being an indicator of life won't be the final proof we are looking for. That microscope could have been.

Also they found the crash site for the lander.

http://www.space.com/34472-exomars-mars-lander-crash-site-photos.html

[AlanS 1]

It looks like they figured out what when wrong.

http://mashable.com/2016/11/23/europe-mars-lander-crash-cause/#itWZC2Pczmqa

Quote

...basically, as Schiaparelli was coming in for touchdown its navigation computer miscalculated its altitude, leading the onboard computer to think that the lander was already safe and on the ground.

... I guess the swoopers here can related to that. The lander was under a good canopy but femur'ed on landing.

[mr2mk1g 10]

AlanS

It looks like they figured out what when wrong.

http://mashable.com/2016/11/23/europe-mars-lander-crash-cause/#itWZC2Pczmqa

Quote

...basically, as Schiaparelli was coming in for touchdown its navigation computer miscalculated its altitude, leading the onboard computer to think that the lander was already safe and on the ground.

... I guess the swoopers here can related to that. The lander was under a good canopy but femur'ed on landing.

Someone should have stressed in ground school how it needs to hold its flare if does it too high.

[Baksteen 84]

AlanS

***But ESA declares success anyway!

https://www.theguardian.com/science/across-the-universe/live/2016/oct/19/mars-landing-esa-attempts-to-set-schiaparelli-probe-on-red-planet-live

So the US remains the only country to have successfully landed probes on the surface of Mars.

Russia - zero in 4 attempts*
ESA - zero in 2 attempts
Japan - zero in 1 attempt
US - 9 in 10 attempts **

* one Russian Lander communicated for 14 seconds before failing.

** We still have a rover that landed in 2003 working, so that is 20+ years of working craft on the surface.

Sheesh... Next thing you tell me you believe the "moon landing" was genuine too.

(kidding)

"That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport."
~mom