ryoder 1,590 #1 October 26, 2016 I just love that first sentence! http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/25/uber_autotrucks_first_delivery_of_budweiser/"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #2 October 26, 2016 I like the very last sentence the best. Quote The company estimates it could save $50m a year by shifting from human to robot-powered delivery of its piss-poor excuse of a beer. Burn. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,444 #3 October 26, 2016 Too many companies dont seem to realize that if they have employees, unpredictable though they may be, more people will have money to buy their shit. I'd put beer companies high on the list of companies that should realize that. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #4 October 26, 2016 “One’s own employees ought to be one’s own best customers.” Henry FordYou can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 October 26, 2016 wmw999Too many companies dont seem to realize that if they have employees, unpredictable though they may be, more people will have money to buy their shit. I'd put beer companies high on the list of companies that should realize that. Wendy P. I've posted this before elsewhere on the site, but for those who have missed it, it's worth checking out and thinking about. https://youtu.be/7Pq-S557XQUquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #6 January 31, 2018 Suncor phasing in 150 autonomous haul trucks, job cuts expected by 2019 After four years of tests and evaluations, Suncor Energy is deploying more than 150 automated haul trucks throughout its oilsands operations. The trucks will arrive at mining sites during the next six years, the company announced Tuesday evening. Job cuts, particularly among equipment operators, are expected to hit the company as early as 2019. A news release from the company says this represents "the largest investments in electric autonomous vehicles in the world."... “It’s not a fantasy,” said Cowan. “At an average (salary) of $200,000 per person, you can see the savings we’re going to get from an operations perspective.” http://www.fortmcmurraytoday.com/2018/01/30/suncor-phasing-in-150-autonomous-haul-trucks-job-cuts-expected-by-2019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iysldmr2czg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #7 February 2, 2018 Interesting video. My son-in-law works as a project manager for an autonomous car company in silicon valley. Three words...snow covered roads. I'm sure they'll eventually figure it out but as of now they haven't. And who pays someone 200 grand to drive a truck? Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #8 February 6, 2018 airdvr Interesting video. My son-in-law works as a project manager for an autonomous car company in silicon valley. Three words...snow covered roads. I'm sure they'll eventually figure it out but as of now they haven't. And who pays someone 200 grand to drive a truck? You'd be surprised. Cuz's husband drive semis loaded w/a million dollars worth of liquor quite often in the LA area. Been trying forever to get him to make a pit stop at the house. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartsDaddy 7 #9 February 7, 2018 wmw999Too many companies dont seem to realize that if they have employees, unpredictable though they may be, more people will have money to buy their shit. I'd put beer companies high on the list of companies that should realize that. Wendy P. Beer companies realize people will buy their beer even if the people buying it don't have money to buy food or toilet paper. They are selling something that destroys life's and kills people. But they make money. Now some at the company might care. The bottom line they want more people to drink more so they make more money. Handguns are only used to fight your way to a good rifle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMK 3 #10 February 7, 2018 That’s a good video. Yes, everyone should see that if a job is either repetitive, dirty or dangerous - it’s days are numbered. I also agree that tech advances will reach much higher up the professional/specialist chain. On this specific one, the US trucking industry comes not just with the background of being highly fragmented, but with added American ideals inbuilt into it – the open road / freedom / you’re your own boss. US transport truck designs still embody this with chrome/adornments on what is just a utility vehicle. Trucking is just about getting shit from A-B cheaply. Technology will march on in many industry sectors, but this one is going to have a little more “sting” to the American blue-collar working man psyche."Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to attend his classes" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #11 February 7, 2018 QuoteOn this specific one, the US trucking industry comes not just with the background of being highly fragmented, but with added American ideals inbuilt into it – the open road / freedom / you’re your own boss. US transport truck designs still embody this with chrome/adornments on what is just a utility vehicle. For the most part those days are long gone. Auto-shift no clutch pedal, satellite or cellular tracking, speed limiters, electronic logbooks, radar controlled adaptive cruise control, systems that alert safety department of time, following too closely, overspeed, and hard braking events, dispatch systems that alert if you are behind schedule, automatically applied braking if a another vehicle is too slow in front of you, there is very little freedom for the average long distance trucker. The truck I drive has every one of these systems. More are coming soon. I drive a company owned truck. But even owner operators have much of this stuff mandated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #12 February 7, 2018 BartsDaddy***Too many companies dont seem to realize that if they have employees, unpredictable though they may be, more people will have money to buy their shit. I'd put beer companies high on the list of companies that should realize that. Wendy P. Beer companies realize people will buy their beer even if the people buying it don't have money to buy food or toilet paper. They are selling something that destroys life's and kills people. But they make money. Now some at the company might care. The bottom line they want more people to drink more so they make more money. WTF.... you got something against beer?......Them's fighting words!! I get your point though. Cheques come out from the govt. and you see people lining up to get a 12 pack. Obviously havn't heard about home made beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMK 3 #13 February 7, 2018 gowlerk For the most part those days are long gone. Auto-shift no clutch pedal, satellite or cellular tracking, speed limiters, electronic logbooks, radar controlled adaptive cruise control, systems that alert safety department of time, following too closely, overspeed, and hard braking events, dispatch systems that alert if you are behind schedule, automatically applied braking if a another vehicle is too slow in front of you, there is very little freedom for the average long distance trucker. The truck I drive has every one of these systems. More are coming soon. I drive a company owned truck. But even owner operators have much of this stuff mandated. Cool, I was watching this truck movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SutDTIhbQ2g and concerned about crazy truck drivers, but now (w/ new tech) we just tap our brakes in front of them and the killers can't get us."Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to attend his classes" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #14 February 7, 2018 RMK*** For the most part those days are long gone. Auto-shift no clutch pedal, satellite or cellular tracking, speed limiters, electronic logbooks, radar controlled adaptive cruise control, systems that alert safety department of time, following too closely, overspeed, and hard braking events, dispatch systems that alert if you are behind schedule, automatically applied braking if a another vehicle is too slow in front of you, there is very little freedom for the average long distance trucker. The truck I drive has every one of these systems. More are coming soon. I drive a company owned truck. But even owner operators have much of this stuff mandated. Cool, I was watching this truck movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SutDTIhbQ2g and concerned about crazy truck drivers, but now (w/ new tech) we just tap our brakes in front of them and the killers can't get us. We still have some tricks we can use to get you. Speed and mass are tools our brakes can not overcome quickly enough to save your ass! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #15 February 7, 2018 >Obviously havn't heard about home made beer. It is very hard - possible, but very hard - to make beer for as cheaply as you can buy it, even ignoring labor costs. We did the exercise a while back to compare costs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #16 February 7, 2018 >Too many companies dont seem to realize that if they have employees, >unpredictable though they may be, more people will have money to buy their shit. >I'd put beer companies high on the list of companies that should realize that. My solution - adopt self driving tractors for safety purposes, but require a safety driver at all times ready to take over if the automation has problems. You keep employing drivers, you save money on insurance and you get "good guy" points. (And you lose less beer to wrecks.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #17 February 7, 2018 gowlerk We still have some tricks we can use to get you. Speed and mass are tools our brakes can not overcome quickly enough to save your ass! Or: http://digg.com/video/bad-truck"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,190 #18 February 7, 2018 ryoder*** We still have some tricks we can use to get you. Speed and mass are tools our brakes can not overcome quickly enough to save your ass! Or: http://digg.com/video/bad-truck Hey, he gets paid by the mile. Don't get in the way! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swisschris62 0 #19 February 13, 2018 I'm still old schooling it. Been at it for 35 years hauling open deck freight. My '99 KW W900 and my '98 Pete 379 both with 3406e engines don't have any of it. Also maybe the best engine CAT ever made. Yes the new trucks have lots of tattle tail systems but I think we are still a long way off from self driving trucks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #20 February 13, 2018 Will Jean Claude Van Damme do the splits atop two self-driving 18 wheelers? "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #21 February 13, 2018 billvonMy solution - adopt self driving tractors for safety purposes, but require a safety driver at all times ready to take over if the automation has problems. You keep employing drivers, you save money on insurance and you get "good guy" points. I've been under the impression that the demand for OTR drivers exceeds the supply. If that is the case, then self-driving trucks could be implemented to some extent without displacing humans in their jobs. Eventually humans will lose the jobs, but it should occur gradually.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #22 February 13, 2018 BillyVance Will Jean Claude Van Damme do the splits atop two self-driving 18 wheelers? I've heard rumors Elon Musk has been working on his leg stretches."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #23 February 13, 2018 ROTF!!! I just found this: https://twitter.com/throwaway827634/status/908110533051670528 "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob_Church 7 #24 February 13, 2018 ryoder ***Will Jean Claude Van Damme do the splits atop two self-driving 18 wheelers? I've heard rumors Elon Musk has been working on his leg stretches.Do you think he'll have a rocket big enough to send it to Mars when it gets a little older? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites