format 1 #1 October 26, 2015 I get it is serious, how come it happens? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 60 #2 October 26, 2015 On a global basis, or an individual one? This here, is what they call a loaded question. And the best answers will of course, be the self-righteous ones. lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
format 1 #3 October 26, 2015 oldwomanc6 On a global basis, or an individual one? This here, is what they call a loaded question. And the best answers will of course, be the self-righteous ones. It's not me loading it, they are And here's another extremity I guess that's the difference between mindset and absence of oneWhat goes around, comes later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #4 October 26, 2015 It's a multifaceted problem. Go look at pictures of people from the 40's, 50's, 60's, hell even 70's. How many obese people do you see? Packaged foods were scarce in those days. You pretty much had to actually cook raw foods. So you didn't consume a lot of processed fats then. People were actually active. Kids went out and played. Then.... technology arrived. New food products came out. Frozen dinners. Prepackaged dry foods. High sodium content. High fat content as well. Microwave ovens. Big TVs. Video games like Atari, Sega and on up to Xbox, etc... smart phones.... Kids don't go out to play much anymore. They'd rather play games on their tech devices. They end up going the easy route and pop in a frozen dinner or pizza rather than cook a healthy meal. Its a fucking catastrophe and its one that I'm NOT going to allow in MY family. My girls are healthy and active. They play a bit on the iPad then I put it away and make them do something else. My wife and I cook dinner. Meat, potatoes or rice, and a vegetable. Sometimes spaghetti from scratch. Rarely do I ever get a frozen dinner. Frozen pizza maybe once a month. Sugary desserts? Almost non-existent in my house except for some cookies for the girls. They need a little sugar, but not too much. But if the current predicament of obesity continues, by the time my girls hit middle or old age, most Americans are going to end up looking like the people on the spaceship in Wall-E. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #5 October 26, 2015 Actually, Billy just touched on the topic of an excellent recent book: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/18/books/salt-sugar-fat-by-michael-moss.html It covers the history of the processed food industry, and the science they use to determine the optimum levels of salt/sugar/fat that will maximize the amount people will eat."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
format 1 #6 October 26, 2015 I vote for Billy as Universal Daddy! ..and what he does MUST go into laws! no joke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,409 #7 October 26, 2015 BillyVance It's a multifaceted problem. Go look at pictures of people from the 40's, 50's, 60's, hell even 70's. How many obese people do you see? Packaged foods were scarce in those days. You pretty much had to actually cook raw foods. So you didn't consume a lot of processed fats then. People were actually active. Kids went out and played. Then.... technology arrived. New food products came out. Frozen dinners. Prepackaged dry foods. High sodium content. High fat content as well. Microwave ovens. Big TVs. Video games like Atari, Sega and on up to Xbox, etc... smart phones.... Kids don't go out to play much anymore. They'd rather play games on their tech devices. They end up going the easy route and pop in a frozen dinner or pizza rather than cook a healthy meal. Its a fucking catastrophe and its one that I'm NOT going to allow in MY family. My girls are healthy and active. They play a bit on the iPad then I put it away and make them do something else. My wife and I cook dinner. Meat, potatoes or rice, and a vegetable. Sometimes spaghetti from scratch. Rarely do I ever get a frozen dinner. Frozen pizza maybe once a month. Sugary desserts? Almost non-existent in my house except for some cookies for the girls. They need a little sugar, but not too much. But if the current predicament of obesity continues, by the time my girls hit middle or old age, most Americans are going to end up looking like the people on the spaceship in Wall-E. In my household; we're on the Paleo diet. 4ozs of grass fed or fish protein a day... all the fruit & vegetables you want. Nothing in a package. Period. People say it costs more to eat healthy. That hasn't been my experience. Sure, we now shop once a week. but because we don't buy anything in packages - its cheaper and faster to stick to the "Outer Ring" of the supermarket. I can be done shopping and out the door in 15 minutes. My 7 year-old's favorite dessert, treat, sweet, snack? Mandarin Oranges.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #8 October 26, 2015 I lost 80 pounds by eliminating the sugars.... essentially a paleo diet but no SUGAR... no fruit.... I gained weight just adding in fresh fruit... No root crops that grow in the ground other than red onions or mushrooms.... taters... or any other root crops.... are a no no... No high fructose corn syrup... in ANYTHING... No bread..... no rice.... Plenty of green veggies and salads with a little olive oil.... and apple vinegar mixed.. with a few spices... They do allow me a bit more ounces of meat a day.. 6 to 8 ounces.. all fresh... fish or grass fed critters from the local massive quantities of dead animal parts store. I have been bad recently on my trip thru deep fried everything land.. but I did have about every species of seafood imaginable in my 2 week vacation including a dish called Swamp thing at a restaurant on the Suwannee River in Fanning Springs.... I went to Florida and bit a gator.Swamp thing consisted of Frog legs... soft shelled crab.... catfish fillets... gator bits and GRITS.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
promise5 17 #9 October 26, 2015 Note to self: never order "swamp thing" No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #10 October 26, 2015 promise5 Note to self: never order "swamp thing" I wanted some snake steaks but they did not have them there now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #11 October 26, 2015 promise5 Note to self: never order "swamp thing" Go bite a gator Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obelixtim 150 #12 October 27, 2015 formatI get it is serious, how come it happens? Carbohydrates in all its forms. Lack of exercise.....more calories in than burnt. Its not rocket science.My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,534 #13 October 27, 2015 It's not rocket science, but it's not easy, either. People are complex, both their chemistry and their motivations. Billy's answer was excellent and mature. As I read it, I kept wondering when he was going to post the gross picture of a morbidly obese couple making out in their fuzzy suits... Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #14 October 27, 2015 wmw999 It's not rocket science, but it's not easy, either. People are complex, both their chemistry and their motivations. Billy's answer was excellent and mature. As I read it, I kept wondering when he was going to post the gross picture of a morbidly obese couple making out in their fuzzy suits... Wendy P. Oh, damn... I forgot. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #15 October 27, 2015 wmw999 It's not rocket science, but it's not easy, either. People are complex, both their chemistry and their motivations. Billy's answer was excellent and mature. As I read it, I kept wondering when he was going to post the gross picture of a morbidly obese couple making out in their fuzzy suits... Wendy P. I think I saw that couple in the Walmart in Americus GA 2 weeks ago Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phillbo 11 #16 October 27, 2015 Soft shell crab will put me in the hospital but i love me some grits :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #17 October 27, 2015 obelixtim***I get it is serious, how come it happens? Carbohydrates in all its forms. Lack of exercise.....more calories in than burnt. Its not rocket science. Let's not forget government subsidies artificially lowering the prices of unhealthy foods/ingredients. You really think high fructose corn syrup would be used in so much stuff if corn wasn't so heavily subsidized?Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 333 #18 October 27, 2015 Bolas Let's not forget government subsidies artificially lowering the prices of unhealthy foods/ingredients. You really think high fructose corn syrup would be used in so much stuff if corn wasn't so heavily subsidized? Also, sugar prices in the US are 2x-3x the world market price. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #19 October 28, 2015 Phillbo Soft shell crab will put me in the hospital but i love me some grits :) Most of these fuckers out here in the Pacific NorthWET that pretend to be restaurateurs.....just look at you like you are crazy if you ask them if they have anyI was getting my annual GRITS Fix for sure..... diet be damned for a couple weeksBUT... I went to Florida and bit me some GATOR Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #20 October 28, 2015 Amazon ***Soft shell crab will put me in the hospital but i love me some grits :) Most of these fuckers out here in the Pacific NorthWET that pretend to be restaurateurs.....just look at you like you are crazy if you ask them if they have anyI was getting my annual GRITS Fix for sure..... diet be damned for a couple weeksBUT... I went to Florida and bit me some GATORDid you stop by and pay your regards to Texas?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #21 October 28, 2015 turtlespeed ******Soft shell crab will put me in the hospital but i love me some grits :) Most of these fuckers out here in the Pacific NorthWET that pretend to be restaurateurs.....just look at you like you are crazy if you ask them if they have anyI was getting my annual GRITS Fix for sure..... diet be damned for a couple weeksBUT... I went to Florida and bit me some GATORDid you stop by and pay your regards to Texas? Nope but I think I was in the aircraft lavatoryfor a bit when we flew over TEXAS on the way to FL.. It whooshed real nice like when I hit that flush button Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
