ZeroPorosity 0 #1 May 11, 2015 "Flying car prototype crashes" Pilot parachutes to safety "On Friday, the AeroMobil 3.0 prototype flying car was on a test flight in Slovakia when eyewitnesses say it went into a tailspin. Its inventor and the man behind the controls, Stefan Klein, 54, deployed the vehicle's parachute system. Klein reportedly sustained only minor injuries." http://www.cnet.com/news/revolutionary-flying-car-crashes/?_sm_au_=iMVKWQHT4sVHMMHs#ftag=YHF65cbda0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #2 May 11, 2015 "Tail spin" is a term fashionable with whuffos, but never heard in flying schools. We will have to wait for an informed reporter before we understand what really happened. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #3 May 11, 2015 But...but... eyewitnesses said it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #4 May 11, 2015 (Stefan Klein voice) "well, back to the drawing board... but at least the bailout system works...""Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroPorosity 0 #5 May 11, 2015 Same story but with a couple of photos: http://www.techspot.com/news/60628-aeromobil-flying-car-prototype-crashes-pilot-suffers-only.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 May 11, 2015 riggerrob"Tail spin" is a term fashionable with shuffle, but never heard in flying schools. Then explain THIS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVWKP9QPRjUquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 May 11, 2015 https://youtu.be/hrDoy4LDDCg BTW, this also proves Chuck Berry is a time traveler.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #8 May 11, 2015 riggerrob "Tail spin" is a term fashionable with shuffle, but never heard in flying schools. We will have to wait for an informed reporter before we understand what really happened. It's really embarrassing to admit to people that I have a Private SEL ticket, but still don't know what a "tail spin" is."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 May 11, 2015 ryoder ***"Tail spin" is a term fashionable with shuffle, but never heard in flying schools. We will have to wait for an informed reporter before we understand what really happened. It's really embarrassing to admit to people that I have a Private SEL ticket, but still don't know what a "tail spin" is.It is simply a spin. If you've never done them, find your instructor and punch him in the face. He cheated you.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #10 May 11, 2015 quade ******"Tail spin" is a term fashionable with shuffle, but never heard in flying schools. We will have to wait for an informed reporter before we understand what really happened. It's really embarrassing to admit to people that I have a Private SEL ticket, but still don't know what a "tail spin" is.It is simply a spin. If you've never done them, find your instructor and punch him in the face. He cheated you. Relax Paul; I did spins in the glider while training for my initial Private ticket; And I did them again in the C150's where I did most of my SEL training. BTW Try spins in a LET L-13 Blaník solo some time. It spins so slowly that is funny.Sort of like burying a toggle when jumping a 425' tandem solo."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #11 May 11, 2015 ryoderI did spins in the glider while training for my initial Private ticket; And I did them again in the C150's where I did most of my SEL training. And yet . . . you would not believe how many students never did since it's not an actual requirement. Stall "awareness and prevention"; yes. Actual, real, developed spins for a even a couple turns; a surprising number who have never seen them.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #12 May 11, 2015 quade***I did spins in the glider while training for my initial Private ticket; And I did them again in the C150's where I did most of my SEL training. And yet . . . you would not believe how many students never did since it's not an actual requirement. Stall "awareness and prevention"; yes. Actual, real, developed spins for a even a couple turns; a surprising number who have never seen them. I think I probably requested the spin training. I was already jumping, and my old man had a pilots license. I've read articles about the debate over spin training and this sums up why the FAA isn't requiring it: Accidents like this one further a debate that has divided the aviation community since 1949, when the Federal Aviation Administration eliminated from the syllabus for a private pilot’s license the requirement for spin training. John Wensel, manager of the FAA’s Certification Branch, General Aviation and Commercial Division, Flight Standards Services, recounts his agency’s reasoning: “We saw that 48 percent of the fatal accidents from that era involved stall/spin, and of those the majority were training-related. We were killing people in trying to eliminate the very thing that was happening to them.” A number of general aviation pilots, however, think that the requirement for spin training should be reinstated. Their reasoning: Everything about flying takes practice. How can a pilot possibly recover from something as disorienting as a spin if the first encounter is an unexpected one? Source: http://www.airspacemag.com/flight-today/the-spin-debate-3571421/"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #13 May 11, 2015 Yeah, funny thing about that was though is the rule NOT requiring actual spins was made at a time when small aircraft design was a little janky to say the least. Then shortly after it got WAY better in terms of spin recovery (for instance, a C-150 you can literally just take your hands off the controls if you have enough altitude), so I'm not even sure I buy the original argument of more people would die during spin training than if they didn't have it to begin with. Of course, now we have some really aerodynamically slick aircraft people are doing their primary training in where it might be an issue again.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #14 May 11, 2015 ZeroPorosity"Flying car prototype crashes" Pilot parachutes to safety "On Friday, the AeroMobil 3.0 prototype flying car was on a test flight in Slovakia when eyewitnesses say it went into a tailspin. Its inventor and the man behind the controls, Stefan Klein, 54, deployed the vehicle's parachute system. Klein reportedly sustained only minor injuries." http://www.cnet.com/news/revolutionary-flying-car-crashes/?_sm_au_=iMVKWQHT4sVHMMHs#ftag=YHF65cbda0 That will buff right out.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #15 May 11, 2015 When I was a kid watching the Jetsons, they promised us flying cars. I want my damn flying car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #16 May 11, 2015 Andy9o8When I was a kid watching the Jetsons, they promised us flying cars. I want my damn flying car. I doubt we'll see it in our lifetime. It's not efficient. Way more efficient is the self-driving car idea.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #17 May 11, 2015 quade***When I was a kid watching the Jetsons, they promised us flying cars. I want my damn flying car. It's not efficient. I don't care Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroPorosity 0 #18 May 11, 2015 quadeWay more efficient is the self-driving car idea. I want more than efficiency in a car. I want fun. Will a self-driving car accelerate from 0 to 60 in 8 seconds? Will a self-driving car pass the slow poke in front of me doing 10 under the speed limit? Hell no. Self driving cars will have us all reduced to being exactly the same, operating under government self-driving car programming edicts. With acceleration limiters, speed governors, probably breathalyzer ignition too. Fuck self-driving cars. Let the sheep have 'em. I want 400 horsepower which is under my own control. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #19 May 11, 2015 quade ***When I was a kid watching the Jetsons, they promised us flying cars. I want my damn flying car. I doubt we'll see it in our lifetime. It's not efficient. Way more efficient is the self-driving car idea. OR.. The roads must roll Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #20 May 12, 2015 Andy9o8I don't care Yes, you will. Aviation is pretty fugging expensive already. Go price a new C-172. Most basic and ubiquitous aircraft on the planet. If it were a car, it would be a basic VW Bug. $250k. How much do you think a real, workable flying car is going to cost out the door? How much do you think it's going to cost to operate? $1m out the door? $200 per hour of operation?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #21 May 12, 2015 quade***I don't care Yes, you will. Aviation is pretty fugging expensive already. Go price a new C-172. Most basic and ubiquitous aircraft on the planet. If it were a car, it would be a basic VW Bug. $250k. How much do you think a real, workable flying car is going to cost out the door? How much do you think it's going to cost to operate? $1m out the door? $200 per hour of operation? OK, fine, then. For your next task, rebut the existence of Spiderman. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #22 May 12, 2015 Andy9o8OK, fine, then. For your next task, rebut the existence of Spiderman. Oh no. That shit's real.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #23 May 12, 2015 ZeroPorosityI want fun... ...0 to 60 in 8 seconds... ...I want 400 horsepower. Are you a gigantic person? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites