ryoder 1,590 #1 February 4, 2015 http://digg.com/video/dashcam-footage-of-the-transasia-plane-crash"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #2 February 4, 2015 Amazing anyone survived.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #3 February 4, 2015 airdvrAmazing anyone survived. At this point, I don't think there are any known survivors. Only confirmed dead vs unaccounted for.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #4 February 4, 2015 The video showed 2 pulled out alive and moving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #5 February 4, 2015 one article said 23 dead, 15 survivors, and 20 missing. Numbers will undoubtedly change. It did look like the pilots deliberately went for the river to better the odds of survival. At that angle when it hit the bridge I felt sure all on board were goners. Then I wondered why there wasn't a fireball."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
verticalflyer 11 #6 February 4, 2015 At least dozen out according to news and footage from the river looked like complete lossof power of aoa this aircraft barely missed pancaking the road and very lucky to have gone in shallow river.Dont just talk about it, Do it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #7 February 4, 2015 It also barely missed a building or two... Imagine being the driver of that van... Ho Lee Fuk!!! ETA - Too early? "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #8 February 4, 2015 verticalflyerAt least dozen out according to news and footage from the river looked like complete lossof power of aoa this aircraft barely missed pancaking the road and very lucky to have gone in shallow river. Cool... The news-bit I saw this AM was only talking about missing... Some good news then...Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #9 February 4, 2015 I heard the pilots radioed a mayday of "engine flameout". Would that be the loss of one or both? With one, you should be able to fly but the margin of performance may be very slim. Glad to hear there were some survivors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #10 February 4, 2015 BillyVance It also barely missed a building or two... Imagine being the driver of that van... Ho Lee Fuk!!! ETA - Too early? Depends. Too early to talk about Asian drivers? Anyhow, holy fuck, indeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #11 February 4, 2015 JohnMitchell I heard the pilots radioed a mayday of "engine flameout". Would that be the loss of one or both? With one, you should be able to fly but the margin of performance may be very slim. Glad to hear there were some survivors. Good question. It looked like the plane was flying level when it entered the video, but I do think the pilots figured the river was a better place to land, but damn! Talk about a hook turn gone bad!"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #12 February 4, 2015 Lost port engine then Vmc roll?"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #13 February 4, 2015 JohnMitchell I heard the pilots radioed a mayday of "engine flameout". Would that be the loss of one or both? With one, you should be able to fly but the margin of performance may be very slim. The margin should not be that slim on a modern transport category aircraft. The aircraft in question was delivered last year. At a total guess: they radioed an engine out, but the video shows both props spinning. If they failed to feather the flamed-out engine, that would explain the stall and roll. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #14 February 4, 2015 bob.dino The margin should not be that slim on a modern transport category aircraft. The aircraft in question was delivered last year. At a total guess: they radioed an engine out, but the video shows both props spinning. If they failed to feather the flamed-out engine, that would explain the stall and roll. It could be that. Improper execution of EPs. I've heard a few stories of crashed simulators by ATPs in an engine-out-on-takeoff situation. Not everyone does everything correctly every time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #15 February 4, 2015 It looks like to me like the wing shears through the top of the car. Is that just me? And all things considered... He put's on those flashers pretty damn fast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #16 February 4, 2015 jclalorIt looks like to me like the wing shears through the top of the car. Is that just me? It did Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #17 February 4, 2015 JohnnyMarko ***It looks like to me like the wing shears through the top of the car. Is that just me? It did Holy shit! That's one lucky motherfucker! Just a foot or 2 further and he'd be split open in his seat. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #18 February 4, 2015 JohnnyMarko***It looks like to me like the wing shears through the top of the car. Is that just me? It did I guess "shears through" was just a bit of an understatement on my part. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theplummeter 15 #19 February 4, 2015 ryoderLost port engine then Vmc roll? Left engine appears to be feathered (most likely the result of an automatic system at that altitude) so that's probably a decent guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishrigger 32 #20 February 4, 2015 looks to me that left engine was out. that looks very much like a stall because of slow airspeed. it also seems that the plane was still trying to climb intially with one engine out. i heard a report that they reached almost a 1000 feet. No matter what its amazing that anyone survived this. latest i hear about 25 poeple walked a away from this horor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #21 February 5, 2015 Looked like the pilot was trying to clear the high rise building. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #22 February 5, 2015 Andy9o8 ***It also barely missed a building or two... Imagine being the driver of that van... Ho Lee Fuk!!! ETA - Too early? Depends. Too early to talk about Asian drivers? Was his name Won Wing Lo?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #23 February 6, 2015 kallend ******It also barely missed a building or two... Imagine being the driver of that van... Ho Lee Fuk!!! ETA - Too early? Depends. Too early to talk about Asian drivers? Was his name Won Wing Lo? Now you're getting it. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #24 February 6, 2015 Fuuuuck: https://twitter.com/FlightDKM/status/563617274230497280 Quote#TransAsia FDR data seems to suggest right-hand engine flamed out, but then left-hand engine was shut down. #GE235 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #25 February 6, 2015 bob.dino Fuuuuck: https://twitter.com/FlightDKM/status/563617274230497280 Quote #TransAsia FDR data seems to suggest right-hand engine flamed out, but then left-hand engine was shut down. #GE235 Firewall everything Undercarriage-up Comfirm dead engine Kill dead engine Mags off Electrical off That would explain why he wasn't able to climb though."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites