Packing new ZP with Reverse S

[ChadFlorian 0]

I was having alot of trouble getting my brand new Saber2 in the bag, then I came across a post that mentioned doing the S-Folds in reverse like so:
http://www.packingparachutes.com/techniques_tips/greed.htm

This has been a godsend! I can now get it in the bag every time and with practice, it just keeps getting easier.

My question is this. Are there any drawbacks to this method? Seems like it still ends up in the same state at the end. For me it's just easier to keep the larger S fold under control while I bag it, also keeping the lower end (slider, etc) under my knees. Then its easy to fold it into the larger fold since the lower end has less material and doesn't try to fill with air so much.

I spent most of last weekend and this week practicing and haven't jumped it yet. Going to do that this afternoon...

Any input appreciated... I'm just so happy to be able to pack my own main!!!

BlueSkies!
-Chad

[meltdown 0]

That's the method I was taught and I have found it to work quite well. I don't think I could get it in the bag any other way.

[Remster 30]

You end up with the exact same fabric arrangement in your bad as with a regular pack job. Just as with these, make sure your PC attachment point is next to the bag grommet.

I even stuff the fold in the bag at the second picture in th link, before completing the 1st S.

Remster

[ChadFlorian 0]

Man!, I was getting so frustrated trying it the way I was taught. I did that well, but that was on a studen F-111, and this is brand new ZP. Seems that having the small fold inside the large fold while trying to get it into the bag made it larger (of course), but also the extra fold in there made it slip all over the damn place while trying to contain it. I needed a couple more hands!

Anyway... as crazy as it sounds, I've gone from hating packing to loving it. For me it's a real sense of accomplishment pcaking my own rig. Now today we'll see how I do outside my airconditioned living room!

-Chad

[sid 1]

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Man!, I was getting so frustrated trying it the way I was taught. I did that well, but that was on a studen F-111, and this is brand new ZP. Seems that having the small fold inside the large fold while trying to get it into the bag made it larger (of course), but also the extra fold in there made it slip all over the damn place while trying to contain it. I needed a couple more hands!

Anyway... as crazy as it sounds, I've gone from hating packing to loving it. For me it's a real sense of accomplishment pcaking my own rig. Now today we'll see how I do outside my airconditioned living room!

-Chad

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Pete Draper,

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[ChadFlorian 0]

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now go back to it and buy a "Pack Like A Ho" shirt,

I'll do one better... Assuming you're using the funds to pay for hosting... I'll host your site for free. I have a server at a colocation data center in dallas that I use to host for customers of mine as well as host my own email, etc.... Be happy to set you up with some space. PM Me if you're interested...

BlueSkies!
-Chad

[masterrig 1]

I've been using and showing others this method for some time. It's really great... especially with new 0-P material. Once that first stow is made, it's much easier to 'neaten-up' your pack job. I show students wanting to learn to pack (Skymaster - 290's) this method. When they get their own gear, it is so much easier for them. Too cool, your getting it out to the 'world'.

Chuck

[riggerrob 643]

I learned that technique 5 years ago and have used it to pack everything from tandems to sub-100 square foot canopies.
This method has been attributed to the Canadian National 8-way Team circa 1995.
I have a couple of improvements to this method.
Once I have the canopy "cocooned" I kneel on it - just above the orange label and slide the d-bag under it. So my knees clamp the canopy to the d-bag and to the floor. Meanwhile my knees prevent steering lines from wandering.
My first step on concerns stuffing the big fold (middle of the canopy) into the top of the d-bag.
Secondly, I stuff the top skin - and bridle attachment - into the top of the d-bag.
Last, I grab lines just below the slider and slam it up against the underside of the canopy, then stuff the bottom of the canopy into the d-bag.

[masterrig 1]

Hey, thanks, Rob! I've got to try that. Like so many, I'm always on the look-out for 'new' ways of doing things. Since, there's no hockey... it'll give me something to do!

Chuck

[realwildone2 0]

Chad,
I use a technique that came from Scott Miller, aka PD subject matter expert that works great. He actually sent me a video years ago and said try this technique. It ends up with the "s" folded canopy going in the D-bag (put in one side then the other). Then as you work on stuffing the main the rest of the way in basically trap it between the bag and the ground as you stuff it in insuring that you keep the slider up against the stops. You have to kind of roll the D-bag so the opening faces the ground with the main in between. This lets you perform the process without worry of the slippery sucker getting away while you are trying to stuff it in the bag. It is amazing how much simpler this is when you use the trapping technique. Then close the D-bag and stow using your favorite method. I do a couple of other things as well before getting to the "s" folds that virtually eliminate the chance of line overs etc. I have used this method for years and have yet to have a off-heading opening. I jump a Spectre 170/Mirage G4. Anyhow, hope this helps.