BlindBrick 0 #1 October 21, 2004 Had a case of beer moment last night as I assembled and packed my new Safire 2 for the first time. I intially started out with a psycho-pack, but when it came time to roll up the canopy, I just could not get the roll started. Every time I tried, it felt like I was trying to fold a flat, rigid plate. I made multipe tries but eventually gave up after the fabric had slid around enough to make me loose confidnece in the pack job. Is there any tips experienced psycho packers can give me for getting the roll started? Also, is psycho packing that big of a deal for a Safire 2? I was able to pro pack the thing pretty easily for being 269 sf of new zp, so if it's not crucial, I could just keep pro packing . -Blind"If you end up in an alligator's jaws, naked, you probably did something to deserve it." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflajankie 0 #2 October 21, 2004 Instead of rolling do a "fold" Hold your left hand over it to hold it in place and then fold/roll with your right hand. It could help to put a weight at the bottom aswell. Otherwise if you just roll you might have a tendency to just pull the topskin and totally expose your bottom. It takes some practice. But once you got it down, I don't think you will change. I will never go back tp propacking after learing to psycho pack. Hope this helps. It's easier to show then describe. Blue ones AnkieSkydivers are a bunch of insensitive jerks... And that's why I don't skydive anymore! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beezyshaw 0 #3 October 21, 2004 Yes, what she said. It's not rolling, but folding the cocooned canopy in bag-sized "chunks". It usually takes 3 folds. I hold my entire forearm across the canopy as I make my first fold. OK, kids, quiz time...can anyone tell me who was the very first person to jump from a plane using the psycho pack? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beezyshaw 0 #4 October 21, 2004 Quote and totally expose your bottom. *** she's going to totally expose her bottom (insert Bevis and Butthead laugh here) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skymama 37 #5 October 22, 2004 I put one knee at the bottom to keep the lines from moving and one knee in the middle and then roll it up with both hands. I'm not an expert packer, but I haven't had a malfuction on my Sabre 2 doing it that way either.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kris 0 #6 October 22, 2004 That's exactly how I do it with my Stiletto, Andrea. Also, at the end of the canopy, I pull the bottom fabric up a bit to make a small pocket, stuff the fluff at the end into it, then roll it up. It's much easier for me to control it that way.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lindsey 0 #7 October 22, 2004 I roll my Safire just like you said Andrea. Just roll the thing up. Keep the lines from getting all screwy and roll away!!!! Peace~ linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kitof1976 0 #8 October 22, 2004 like Andrea said! What I do is make the cigar as any propackers do and then I jus flip the cigar over and put one knee on the slider to keep the lines from getting mess up and the other knee somewhere in the middle.... that give you both hands to get the roll started and pull the bridal loop to the side... then roll away baby!!! this gives you good control over the width of the roll so that the pack job jumps into the d-bag lot of people are pretty skeptical about the psychopacks here in switzerland... but I love the look I get from people that have never seen one done before! It like:" Dude, what the F.... are you doing" "We see the world just the way we are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites phoenixlpr 0 #9 October 22, 2004 Its really easy to say. I`ve tried to roll my Pilot when it was brand new: no success, it was damn slippery. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ReLLiK75 0 #10 October 22, 2004 I've been psycho-packing my Pilot 168 for about 20 jumps now. When I first started I ended up with some fat rolls that were somewhat difficult to get in the bag. I even had a few where it was slipping and sliding all over the place and I ended up just starting from scratch. After about the 6th psycho pack, i got it down. Now my roll is actually so small and tight I have no problem getting it in the bag. In fact, the roll is so small and tight I really should switch to the smaller rubber bands! __________________________________________ Have you Got Flare? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
skymama 37 #5 October 22, 2004 I put one knee at the bottom to keep the lines from moving and one knee in the middle and then roll it up with both hands. I'm not an expert packer, but I haven't had a malfuction on my Sabre 2 doing it that way either.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #6 October 22, 2004 That's exactly how I do it with my Stiletto, Andrea. Also, at the end of the canopy, I pull the bottom fabric up a bit to make a small pocket, stuff the fluff at the end into it, then roll it up. It's much easier for me to control it that way.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #7 October 22, 2004 I roll my Safire just like you said Andrea. Just roll the thing up. Keep the lines from getting all screwy and roll away!!!! Peace~ linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kitof1976 0 #8 October 22, 2004 like Andrea said! What I do is make the cigar as any propackers do and then I jus flip the cigar over and put one knee on the slider to keep the lines from getting mess up and the other knee somewhere in the middle.... that give you both hands to get the roll started and pull the bridal loop to the side... then roll away baby!!! this gives you good control over the width of the roll so that the pack job jumps into the d-bag lot of people are pretty skeptical about the psychopacks here in switzerland... but I love the look I get from people that have never seen one done before! It like:" Dude, what the F.... are you doing" "We see the world just the way we are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #9 October 22, 2004 Its really easy to say. I`ve tried to roll my Pilot when it was brand new: no success, it was damn slippery. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReLLiK75 0 #10 October 22, 2004 I've been psycho-packing my Pilot 168 for about 20 jumps now. When I first started I ended up with some fat rolls that were somewhat difficult to get in the bag. I even had a few where it was slipping and sliding all over the place and I ended up just starting from scratch. After about the 6th psycho pack, i got it down. Now my roll is actually so small and tight I have no problem getting it in the bag. In fact, the roll is so small and tight I really should switch to the smaller rubber bands! __________________________________________ Have you Got Flare? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
