True American Hero.

[kmcguffee 0]

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murdering people for profit(oil etc) is just a notch above murdering people for pleasure in my book

Where is the oil in Afghanistan? Didn't they tell you guys in Germany why we went into Afghanistan? How are you inserting oil into that conflict?

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GW´s string pullers are the ones who killed him. Not the people trying to protect their homeland and family.

We're not in Afghanistan to protect our homeland and family? You've got your information a little twisted. You're also showing complete disrespect for someone who had the courage to sacrifice for his beliefs.

"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

[base283 0]

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Oh Moderators, can we move this to Speakers Corner please.......It's about to go illegal on Bonfire.

We don´t need the moderators to do this. we can do it ourselves. Try it.
take care,
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[catfishhunter 2]

The best way to react to those that only wish to cause controversey is no action. When you ignore them it pisses them more then arguing with them. Again the nicest thing I can say to you is "Hope you don't Bounce" Peace...


I started this because I felt and still feel very deeply about the decisions this man made. I personally was very proud when he made his decision. It made me think about my own decisions in life and had me wondering if I would be willing to walk away from millions of dollars for my convictions... Sadly I don't think I would have been able to but as an American I am truley honered by this mans actions and as a NFL Fan I am sad that I will never get to see him blow up another wide reciever trying to go over the middle.......

Freedom isn't FREE!

MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT
Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

[base283 0]

Am I so twisted? check it out yourself. I in no way dissed him. I actually agree that he is a hero for doing for what he believed. So WTF are we in Afgan for sir? I challenge you to give me an answer. Do you really think that the adminstration was flying out Bin Laden´s family after 9/11 to be nice. maybe you are twisted.
take care and let us bring this to the corner.
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[Dagny 0]

Dude. Get a beer, chill.

This thread was started to honor the memory of a man who made a commitment that many of us can hardly fathom making. He had the easy road laid out ahead of him, but he took the high road instead. His memory, along with the others who have died and are dying for the oath they made to the U.S,. deserves our respect and the utmost dignity.

You've said your piece. If you've got more to say about the U.S. and foreign affairs, feel free to start a thread elsewhere.

And, for those of you who were watching the draft, I thought the tribute they made to him and all those who have lost their lives while wearing the uniform was befitting and well done.

Like those who have fallen before him, and those who have yet to fall, his sacrifice will not be forgotten.

Take me, I am the drug; take me, I am hallucinogenic.
-Salvador Dali

[base283 0]

You should drink a whiskey babe.
How thre fuck can you condone the 600 deaths of people killing 6000.. I am waiting for an answer
respect he deserves, dignity not IMHO. I have only tried to say that the family members of people murdered in Iraq/ afgan have maybe differing feelings.WTF, murder is murder.
Let us fight about this on the corner when you wish.
The guy was not a loser in my book, just missguided.
The stasi and nazi´s wore uniforms also. does this make it ok to destroy families? you are twisted maybe.
take care,
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[n2skdvn 0]

Base while I disagree with you i also honor your opinion. but beyond that i think your argument would be better represented in this forum for whtch they were created.

I just ask that you would give others respect for their opinions as i give yours.

if my calculations are correct SLINKY + ESCULATOR = EVERLASTING FUN
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[kmcguffee 0]

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So WTF are we in Afgan for sir? I challenge you to give me an answer.

To take the attack to the terrorists instead of sitting around trying to defend everything. Remember the country that was hiding UBL after 9/11? Maybe we can just pull out and watch Afghanistan collapse back into the Second Taliban Government. There is no oil or natural resources that we want or need in Afghanistan. Now, you tell me why you think we are in Afghanistan. The poppies?

"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin

[Michele 1]

Ignorance, as they say, is bliss. I for one prefer to allow someone so blissful to remain so. (In other words, this needs to move forums, and then I may offer an opinion).

Base283, to continue posting on this thread, in this forum, is disrespectful to he who runs this place, and those who mod it.

How about, if you're secure in your position, you start another thread, as has been suggested? Perhaps then we can talk, deal?

Ciels-
Michele

~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

[crzjp20 0]

please move this thread befre i rip into base in a fassion that would not be exceptable on this forum....


.... ok ill be nice, but still please move it, then ill give my opinion

thanks

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[tunaplanet 0]

Hooyah, bro. I hear ya.

Is Base the same guy I see in the local bars drinking his whisky, looking over his shoulder in paranoia as he tells anyone that will listen his version of America and all of his conspiracy theories?

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[mjosparky 4]

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Hooyah, bro. I hear ya.

Is Base the same guy I see in the local bars drinking his whisky, looking over his shoulder in paranoia as he tells anyone that will listen his version of America and all of his conspiracy theories?

No he is just another guy who will run his mouth about how bad the Americans are as he leaves his own country to live here. Holding allegance to neither.
Sparky

My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

[Muenkel 0]

Oh I so want to respond to this, but it's in the wrong forum.

Anyway, back to topic. Pat Tillman is a true hero who made the ultimate sacrifice for freedom. I didn't call him an American hero, because there are many non-american soldiers fighting and dieing for the same cause. To me, all who sign on that dotted line and give up years of their life to protect freedom in this world is a hero in my book.

Chris

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[base283 0]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Afghanistan,+pipeline&spell=1

[crzjp20 0]

just a logic question here, but if we are there for oil, then why the hell are gas proces at the highest they have ever been in the US??

just a thought....

ok no more till it is in the right place

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[base283 0]

It´sa deal.
take care
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[base283 0]

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1049993;#1049993

[lawrocket 3]

There were a couple of things abotu Tillman that I read and heard.

First, I heard an interesting idea on the radio. Why not have the NFL pain all of it's 40 yard lines this season to honor Tillman? I thought that guy had a nice idea.

The second one was that the NFL had a moment of silence before the draft. I would have liked to see a few minutes of cheers. Still, I'm sure Tillman would have wanted neither.

I'm torn on this. Honor the man by dishonoring his wishes, or honor the man by honoring his wishes.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Vertifly 0]

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...he was only a bush henchmen to clear the way for an oil pipeline...

It is this persons values, beliefs, love for country, and integrity that we should respect. Not the global affect of the political intention that he serves. This guy sacrificed a luxurious lifestyle (not to mention his life) to, voluntarily, defend something that he believed in. I think your comment may belong in another post - perhaps in Speakers Corner.

[lawrocket 3]

Been ten years.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[catfishhunter 2]

Damn it has been a long time hasn't it. :(

MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT
Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.