format 1 #1 April 17, 2014 No insurance.What goes around, comes later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #2 April 17, 2014 As near as possible to home and my support structure (friends, family, my own bed)."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zoobrothertom 5 #3 April 17, 2014 Germany works for me! ____________________________________ I'm back in the USA!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #4 April 17, 2014 NWFlyerAs near as possible to home and my support structure (friends, family, my own bed). ^This with some modifications for me. Since I don't have a support structure I'd have to add in 'places with good food that will deliver'.Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arvoitus 1 #5 April 17, 2014 I'm not sure I understand your question but do you mean that I have to choose a country where I'd break myself on landing a canopy without having a medical insurance? If so, most EU-countries will do fine.Your rights end where my feelings begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #6 April 17, 2014 format No insurance. what kind of country lets you without insurance ?scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #7 April 17, 2014 piisfish ***No insurance. what kind of country lets you without insurance ?This one I live in. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
format 1 #8 April 17, 2014 piisfish ***No insurance. what kind of country lets you without insurance ?I don't know. I just wonder if it's safer to femur in Canada, England or Bermuda without insuranceWhat goes around, comes later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 52 #9 April 17, 2014 Define "safer."lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
format 1 #10 April 17, 2014 oldwomanc6Define "safer." Preferable getting fixed in decent mannerWhat goes around, comes later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #11 April 17, 2014 format ******No insurance. what kind of country lets you without insurance ?I don't know. I just wonder if it's safer to femur in Canada, England or Bermuda without insurance There's so many variables here. Where are you in relation to the closest trauma center (assuming something as serious as femur or more serious - you're not going to the local community hospital, you're going to a trauma center)? How close is the closest air ambulance? Do you speak the local language or have someone with you who speaks the local language? There are a lot of places in the world where you can receive a very high level of care, and there are others where I wouldn't go without some great travel/evacuation insurance so I could get somewhere else to get my care. (Bottom line on all that is that I, personally, won't skydive without insurance. In the U.S. I'm fully covered by my medical insurance; abroad, I'll purchase travel insurance that'll either cover care locally or get me to another country that can provide the level of care I need. If I get broken, I want the only thing I need to worry about to be healing, not how to pay for it or how to pay for getting to a higher level of care)."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
format 1 #12 April 17, 2014 By "decent" I mean not having a crooked leg left and not screaming all the time @ NWFlier Quote If I get broken, I want the only thing I need to worry about to be healing, not how to pay for it or how to pay for getting to a higher level of care) Well, that was the essence of my question Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #13 April 18, 2014 Somewhere with exceptionally high quality of care that I could leave without paying and not care if I can never go back. Only an ass jumps without insurance, so if I were doing it I would probably be the sort of ass who expects dz.commers or the hospital to foot my billcavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #14 April 18, 2014 Here I was thinking it was a question for the air force air crews. Those fuckers always seem to break down in the best places... just sucks when you're the cargo and you are unable to enjoy the local environment."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #15 April 20, 2014 format No insurance. Which ever one has the best benefit boogies.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #16 April 20, 2014 That island where Wonder Woman is from...where all the inhabitants are ultra-hot women. I wasn't sure when I opened this thread if you meant landing a canopy or an airplane. I was returning to the States from a Mid-East country on an Air Force plane once. Before landing to re-fuel in Spain, I was told the brakes were faulty, repair parts were unavailable in Spain, so we would have an indefinite layover. I questioned how we discovered the brakes were faulty BEFORE landing and how we knew which parts were faulty BEFORE an inspection. I was informed Spain had no repair facilities, but great restaurants and bars, so the planes ALWAYS broke down there. Ditto for Italy, France, etc. If we had been re-fueling in a shit-hole, the pilot would have continued the flight without engines or the left wing.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #17 April 20, 2014 U.K every time. ..... No One is going to ask for a credit card before they scoop you up and take you to be fixed. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #18 April 20, 2014 davjohnsI wasn't sure when I opened this thread if you meant landing a canopy or an airplane. I was returning to the States from a Mid-East country on an Air Force plane once. Before landing to re-fuel in Spain, I was told the brakes were faulty, repair parts were unavailable in Spain, so we would have an indefinite layover. I questioned how we discovered the brakes were faulty BEFORE landing and how we knew which parts were faulty BEFORE an inspection. I was informed Spain had no repair facilities, but great restaurants and bars, so the planes ALWAYS broke down there. Ditto for Italy, France, etc. If we had been re-fueling in a shit-hole, the pilot would have continued the flight without engines or the left wing. Exactly... Spain or Germany? The cargo area intercom speaker is inop, we're stuck... Hostile country? Get in, sit down and hold on..."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arvoitus 1 #19 April 20, 2014 Iago***No insurance. No insurance? Whichever one has the best taxpayer funded socialized medical system so I can get all fixed up on their dime. It only works if you're a citizen of said country.Your rights end where my feelings begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #20 April 20, 2014 formatIf you knew you'd break on landing [with no insurance], what's your country of choice? If you had to get in a car accident during a civil war, which country would you want to have it in? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
format 1 #21 April 20, 2014 champu If you had to get in a car accident during a civil war, which country would you want to have it in? I get it you didn't get it. Check out this guy, I can't imagine his insurance policy would really help there What goes around, comes later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swisschris62 0 #22 April 20, 2014 What's wrong with getting fixed up from a guy with a chicken bone through his nostril? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #23 April 21, 2014 format ***If you had to get in a car accident during a civil war, which country would you want to have it in? I get it you didn't get it. Check out this guy, I can't imagine his insurance policy would really help there That's what the medical evacuation insurance is for; place where you don't trust the quality/sophistication of the locals."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #24 April 21, 2014 format ***If you had to get in a car accident during a civil war, which country would you want to have it in? I get it you didn't get it. Check out this guy, I can't imagine his insurance policy would really help there As Krisanne points out, there's insurance available for just about everything. I know what you're getting at, but I don't really like overly-constrained hypothetical questions because they're too leading. But this is Bonfire, not Speakers Corner, so whatever. I apologize for being a smart ass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #25 April 21, 2014 format ***If you had to get in a car accident during a civil war, which country would you want to have it in? I get it you didn't get it. Check out this guy, I can't imagine his insurance policy would really help there Clearly he didn't need it. See how easy it is to do Demos and not break yourself?My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites