quade 4 #76 February 5, 2014 kallend ****************** Hard to feel any sympathy for the guy. Hmm. Reads like one of those comments you see on news stories about skydiving fatalities. We are quite sure he's dead, pretty damn sure (pending autopsy) it was due to an OD on illegal drugs, and I find it quite credible that more was found in his apartment. I see little parallel to skydiving. How about swooping? Last time I checked, Heroin was illegal in all US states and almost all nations. Do you not empathize with an individual if they died BASE jumping in a National Park? Let's say for instance, Jan Davis. Does illegality really toggle your empathy subroutine? Are you confusing BASE with swooping now? You brought the concept of illegality into the situation. The analogy in the skydiving world is BASE in a National Park.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #77 February 5, 2014 Quote Many addicts are actually self-medicating for underlying issues that aren't addictive personality. I am very sympathetic to that part of the issue. This! Not using heroin is a very normal and healthy decision. But, who here can say that in a moment of weakness we haven't made a bad decision in our life? Now add phsychological, and in some case physical factors into the equasion. So easy to be "holier than thou". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #78 February 5, 2014 There are some lines I will never cross. No "holier than thou" by any means. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #79 February 5, 2014 normiss There are some lines I will never cross. But those lines shift depending on age, development of judgment, experience, maturity. Here - hold my beer and watch This. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #80 February 5, 2014 I disagree. I have sadly had a number of opportunities to snort or shoot up. No. Fucking. Way. Never. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #81 February 5, 2014 normiss There are some lines I will never cross. No "holier than thou" by any means. + 1Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #82 February 5, 2014 I have to admit I didn't see this coming: http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/02/philip-seymour-hoffman-gay-boyfriend-david-bar-katz-dead-died-death-homosexual/ Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #83 February 5, 2014 Like you have ever "seen anything coming" from The National Enquirer before this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #84 February 5, 2014 normiss Like you have ever "seen anything coming" from The National Enquirer before this. They were good for the John Edwards scandal. Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #85 February 5, 2014 If you say so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #86 February 5, 2014 I think it's sad that someone who purported to be PSH's good friend and gay lover would out him to the world in this way, so soon. The family may have known but why throw additional fuel on the fire so soon? Who talks to the rag mags for free? My guess is this man didn't. Oh well. Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcSwervy 0 #87 February 5, 2014 Well, Mark you were correct! I totally fell for it!! http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/philip-seymour-hoffman-gay-friend-legal-action-claim-article-1.1603049 Oops!! Always be kinder than you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #88 February 6, 2014 PLFKING Quote Static or current? Current, please.....and in laymans' terms. And if you could use sock puppets it would help. Don Certainly sir. "School House Rock" layman enough for you?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #89 February 6, 2014 Nice. Louie the Lightningbug was another advocate of safe use of electricity.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #90 February 6, 2014 Andy9o8 ***There are some lines I will never cross. But those lines shift depending on age, development of judgment, experience, maturity. Here - hold my beer and watch This. There are lines I hope to never cross. I have crossed too many lines in the past to say definitively that I am strong enough to not cross others. These things are easy to say when you have not tested your limits...or had them tested for you.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #91 February 6, 2014 davjohns ******There are some lines I will never cross. But those lines shift depending on age, development of judgment, experience, maturity. Here - hold my beer and watch This. There are lines I hope to never cross. I have crossed too many lines in the past to say definitively that I am strong enough to not cross others. These things are easy to say when you have not tested your limits...or had them tested for you. This! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #92 February 7, 2014 Quote Ridding poison of impurities is still making me laugh. People do a lot of things to rid alcoholic beverages of "impurities." And yet ethanol is still a poison. Just saying... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #93 February 7, 2014 Shotgun Quote Ridding poison of impurities is still making me laugh. People do a lot of things to rid alcoholic beverages of "impurities." And yet ethanol is still a poison. Just saying... Not to worry; In the first stage of metabolism, it is converted to acetaldehyde.Oh, wait;That's also a poison.Never mind."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #94 February 7, 2014 ryoder That's also a poison. Depending on the partial pressure, so is oxygen. Let's not get too hung up on the word "poison" since it's the quantity that matters and not so much the substance itself.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #95 February 7, 2014 quade ***That's also a poison. Depending on the partial pressure, so is oxygen. Let's not get too hung up on the word "poison" since it's the quantity that matters and not so much the substance itself. Well, acetaldehyde is what makes a person sick after too much ethanol ingestion, and is a suspected carcinogen. Also, a certain portion of the population has very low levels of the enzyme aldehyde dehydrogenase which is needed to convert the acetaldehyde to harmless acetic acid. About 20% of the Asian population has this trait (see "Asian Flush"). For them, drinking means getting sick. For those who drink anyway, there is an elevated risk of esophageal cancer. The effect is simulated by the drug disulfiram (aka Antabuse) prescribed to alcoholics to keep them from drinking."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #96 February 7, 2014 quade ***That's also a poison. Depending on the partial pressure, so is oxygen. Let's not get too hung up on the word "poison" since it's the quantity that matters and not so much the substance itself. True. In the right quantity, even heroin has a beneficial use without necessarily being "poisonous." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #97 February 7, 2014 ryoder Well, acetaldehyde is what makes a person sick after too much ethanol ingestion, and is a suspected carcinogen. Again, the same sort of thing can be said about oxygen. Taking in too much (100% at >2 atmospheres) can kill you and it is a carcinogen as well! The key in both statements is "too much." This is also the difference between say, alcohol and marijuana. The lethal dose, milligrams per kilogram, of alcohol is pretty easy to achieve; drink a lot and drink quickly. The lethal dose of marijuana is difficult if not impossible to achieve. Obviously the lethal dose of heroin is all too easy to achieve.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #98 February 7, 2014 I've never had that prescribed. Somehow, I feel left out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #99 February 7, 2014 Decent actor. Not surprising that a very creepy man was successful playing very creepy roles, though. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #100 February 7, 2014 You've met him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
