GogglesnTeeth 6 #1 November 21, 2013 Opps..... Wrong airport! http://www.buzzfeed.com/passantino/massive-plane-mistakenly-lands-at-a-tiny-kansas-airport-andGoggles and Teeth "You fall like a greased safe!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3mpire 0 #2 November 21, 2013 Convo with ATC is pretty awesome: https://m.soundcloud.com/buzzfeednews/747-lands-at-wrong-kansas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #3 November 21, 2013 Bwhaaaaaaa ... "We think so ..... " (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #4 November 21, 2013 A friend of mine works for Atlas (the company operating this DL747) and flies the 747 and the dreamlifter, and when I saw this this morning I called him right away. It was not him, sadly/thankfully but he knows the guys. Crazy!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3mpire 0 #5 November 21, 2013 "ATC: Do you have a good idea where you are?" "Pilot: Yes... let me ask you this how many airports are there south of you" "ATC: Well... you're currently NORTH of us and there are three along the approach" "Pilot: Sorry, I meant north I'm looking at something else" CLEARLY. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #6 November 21, 2013 Whoopsss images shows google map of where they are .vs. where they should beThis is going to cost him s (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #7 November 21, 2013 Wow. There have been other instances where planes land at the wrong airport, including ones far too small. (One list of wrong airport landings by airliners seems to be at http://www.thirdamendment.com/wrongway.html) But the Dreamlifter is a pretty special, very large plane, so it isn't like the pilots are going to be run of the mill pilots with little experience in bigger aircraft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #8 November 21, 2013 shropshire Whoopsss images shows google map of where they are .vs. where they should beThis is going to cost him s NPR was kind enough to provide them with a google map for towing. http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/11/21/246498844/taking-off-will-be-tricky-after-jet-lands-at-wrong-airport"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flygirl1220 0 #9 November 21, 2013 They are lucky they had enough runway to land even. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linebckr83 3 #10 November 21, 2013 Jabara isn't normally considered a small airport at 6,101x100, but in comparison to the dreamliner it sure is. I know these guys aren't your normal run of the mill pilots, but McConnell AFB 19L is 12,000x150. You'd think they would notice the runway being half the size of their destination runway. But after listening to the ATC talk, they really don't seem like extremely experienced pilots, both in radio communication and preparation. I'm not sure why they need to ask McConnell tower what the identifier, frequencies, and coordinates of another airport are....that's what sectionals, A/FD, and modern avionics are there for. Having said that, last I heard they were planning a noon departure out of Jabara so I'm heading there now "Are you coming to the party? Oh I'm coming, but I won't be there!" Flying Hellfish #828 Dudist #52 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3mpire 0 #11 November 21, 2013 Quote Having said that, last I heard they were planning a noon departure out of Jabara so I'm heading there now Bring something better than a camera phone to get viddy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #12 November 21, 2013 [Quote]I know these guys aren't your normal run of the mill pilots, but McConnell AFB 19L is 12,000x150. You'd think they would notice the runway being half the size of their destination runway It depends on altitude at the time of visualization of the runway. If the pilots are on final at 2500 AGL, they will be much less able to tell the difference between a 6kx100 and a 12kx150. On the other hand, especially with a nighttime approach, one would think that the two flash of white followed by green at the airport would be an indication of wrong place. TWO white flashes followed by green is the beacon you're looking for... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linebckr83 3 #13 November 21, 2013 There is a live video feed over at www.kake.com Set to takeoff here pretty quick"Are you coming to the party? Oh I'm coming, but I won't be there!" Flying Hellfish #828 Dudist #52 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3mpire 0 #14 November 21, 2013 Man this local news station is awesome, I've never seen local news do such a deep dive into what happened in an aviation incident (starting at 7:20): http://www.kake.com/home/headlines/Boeing-jet-lands-at-Jabara-Airport-232781081.html ... though it helps if the person doing the talking (weatherman) is also a pilot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #15 November 21, 2013 Takeoff reported successful. I wonder how close it was to the end though. Did they do some engine revving to get it to take off faster? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 60 #16 November 21, 2013 I'm assuming they offloaded everything possible and got rid of excess fuel, anybody know?lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linebckr83 3 #17 November 21, 2013 I couldn't tell from the video but I'm sure it was a short field takeoff where they hold the brakes until engine power is fully increased. The news reporter said it was an empty airplane coming into Wichita to pick up parts, so there was no need to remove payload. They may have siphoned out some fuel but honestly it didn't take up much runway on takeoff. Winds here were 18G26kts and it's 34°F, both tremendously help field performance."Are you coming to the party? Oh I'm coming, but I won't be there!" Flying Hellfish #828 Dudist #52 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #18 November 21, 2013 oldwomanc6 I'm assuming they offloaded everything possible and got rid of excess fuel, anybody know? They were planning to keep the extra fuel for takeoff, then dump it over Sedona after they were airborne."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 60 #19 November 21, 2013 lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Opie 0 #21 November 21, 2013 ryoder ***I'm assuming they offloaded everything possible and got rid of excess fuel, anybody know? They were planning to keep the extra fuel for takeoff, then dump it over Sedona after they were airborne.Did they make a pass by Gibbys before returning to the right airport? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buff 0 #22 November 22, 2013 oldwomanc6I'm assuming they offloaded everything possible and got rid of excess fuel, anybody know? Saw it this morning on the way to work. At first I saw the tail rising up from the south end of the runway as I was approaching on the highway. WTF? Someone really dropped their approach plate and screwed the pooch. Apparently my wife saw "a huge loud plane that didnt look right" last night when she was walking the dog but didn't mention it until it showed up on the news. She said it was low and slow and thought it might fall out of the sky. The lifter was ferrying Boeing parts from Italy for temp storage at the closed Boeing plant here. KAAO handles corp jets and GA. Uses pilot controlled lighting and is usually dark. Someone landed at KAAO as the 747 was inbound to KIAB and the lights were on on a clear night when they called airport insight and were cleared by the KIAB tower controller. It had to really be an oh shit moment standing on eveything to get her stopped as the freeway it just off the south end. Then from other folks, I heard the cops were trying to escort tugs and APUs across town and threr was a tug broke down on Rock Rd this morning. KAAO didNt have a tall enough ladder to get to the door so the crew could get out... They finally got equipment to turn it around and removed fuel until there was only 30 minutes worth and left all the cargo on board. He got off in what looked like 5k worth of pavement. I figured if you can get a B-29 off a carrier, they would do this fine. With the number of airfields in this metro area, this happens more than folks hear about with transients. Indeed Wichita does have pretty good aviation reporting.It's called the Hillbilly Hop N Pop dude. If you're gonna be stupid, you better be tough. That's fucked up. Watermelons do not grow on trees! ~Skymama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,445 #23 November 22, 2013 Hi Goggles, When this one happened they brought in pilots from the mfr because no one really thought that anyone could land or takeoff from a runway that short.: August 12, 1962 - A United Airlines DC-8, bound for Portland, Oregon (PDX), mistakenly lands at Troutdale (TTD). Link. See also "Jet Lands on Short Runway at Wrong Oregon Airport," New York Times, August 13, 1962. JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites