I_luv_beer 0 #1 November 12, 2004 Here's a tip about pilot chute bridal routing which I think is a good one for avoiding horse-shoe mals with your BOC in the case of a premature container opening. Yes, the best remedy is avoidance (tight closing loop, gear checks etc) and luckily these are rare occurences however this tip is very simple to use in packing the PC. Fold the PC as you normally do but when laying the bridal into it just have the end coming out beside the hackey (or whatever) then roll up the PC around it as normal. I've seen a lot of people having the bridal coming out the other end (the one you put into the pouch first) and running down the side of the PC. The problem with this is that if your d-bag comes out first the pulling force from the bag (or canopy) tries to pull the back end of the PC out past the handle end. This folds the PC in half inside the pouch and lodges it there. I've actually seen the attachment point ripped right off the top of a canopy with the PC still snuggly stowed in the BOC pouch. With that sort of force on it you may not even be able to deploy the PC by hand after the bag is out. Then you can cutaway only the risers and must deploy the reserve straight into the main, which is attached to the BOC pouch still. So what's the difference with bringing the bridal out at the hackey end of your rolled up PC? Well then the pulling force from the d-bag is applied to the end at the opening of the pouch so it wont fold the PC in half. It may pull it straight out for you (ouch!) but that's better than a main/res entanglement. I can't think of any disadvantages, in terms of other problems this could cause, and its easy to change. Of course you could just use a pull-out deployment system instead. I was going to attach some pics to try and show exactly what I mean but my camera takes 150 kb for the smallest pic, too big to upload.*********************************** I am NOT responsible!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruffles 0 #2 November 12, 2004 I need a picture... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larsrulz 0 #3 November 13, 2004 The best way, imo, to prevent a premature deployment from turning into a horseshoe is to use Brain Germain's pilot chute packing technique, which can be found here. Having once watched a horseshoe malfunction during a student jump; I sure as hell don't want one myself. I got a strong urge to fly, but I got no where to fly to. -PF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #4 November 13, 2004 ***Yes, the best remedy is avoidance (tight closing loop, gear checks etc pull-outs)...... Sorry couldn't resist...---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I_luv_beer 0 #5 November 13, 2004 QuoteBrain Germain's pilot chute packing technique Yep that's pretty much it, he is bringing the bridal out the hackey end. Though he doesnt emphasis it, that is the key part of the method. Rather than try and teach people a new way of folding the PC I think it's more likely they'll make the change when it's as easy as bringing the bridal out the other end.*********************************** I am NOT responsible!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyhighkiy 0 #6 November 13, 2004 have you heard of anyone using this techniquue that has a PVC handle? I'm just thinking that with as small as the handle is, and as close as it's sewn to the pc, that it might present some sort of a problemw tih grabbing the bridle while it's routed like that? *asking for my safety* BE THE BUDDHA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masher 1 #7 November 15, 2004 Quotehave you heard of anyone using this techniquue that has a PVC handle? I'm just thinking that with as small as the handle is, and as close as it's sewn to the pc, that it might present some sort of a problemw tih grabbing the bridle while it's routed like that? *asking for my safety* I've got a PVC handle and pack basically according to Brian's method. Pretty much no chance of grabbing the bridle, as long as you keep everything neat and tidy.-- Arching is overrated - Marlies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites