airdvr 210 #1 July 31, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XmIIgE7eSak Oblivion. Cruise. Freeman. One of the best in recent memory.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 July 31, 2013 Wait! Is it possible we agree on something? Yeah, good flick. One of the more original major flicks I saw this summer.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorrinRadd 0 #3 July 31, 2013 One of the very rare times I enjoyed Tom Cruise's performance.Why drive myself crazy trying to be normal, when I am already at crazy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #4 July 31, 2013 That movie sucked balls. It was visually great, but the plot, especially the ending, made absolutely no sense. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #5 July 31, 2013 Maybe you need to watch it again.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorrinRadd 0 #6 July 31, 2013 DanGThat movie sucked balls. It was visually great, but the plot, especially the ending, made absolutely no sense. SPOILERS. YOU ARE WARNED. This movie, as with most sci fi, requires a certain suspension of disbelief. The premise for the attack of the Scavs was flawed from the start: They were trying to grab water from Earth. If water was what a space-faring alien race needs, our Oort Cloud has so much water it is ridiculous. It is literally a sphere made up of floating balls of ice that sits at about a light year out from the sun. The water there could easily make what little water our planet has seem completely worthless as a resource, and highly inefficient to gather. BUT... The movie was well paced. There were some pretty cool twists and red-herrings. And for once it did not have a Hollywood ending. Morgan Freeman was his usual serene, sardonic self. Tom Cruise's character was out of control Which looks good on him: I am so tired of his cocky, I can do anything type of character, such as Top Gun and the Missions Impossible. The ending had the same sort of quality to it that was imparted by Space Odyssey and Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Except there was a bomb, and the big bad really was a big bad, not just some all powerful, slightly apathetic being. I enjoyed it. Though I will say (and I know this will immediately draw the ire of some purists here) I enjoyed Into Darkness more. In the vein of this year's crop of sci fi block busters.Why drive myself crazy trying to be normal, when I am already at crazy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 July 31, 2013 NorrinRaddI enjoyed Into Darkness more. /facepalm I've (almost) come to the conclusion this is a purely generational issue though. If a person grew up during the Star Trek TOS time period, they more than likely hated Into Darkness. If they were born after say, 1982 or thereabouts, they probably think Into Darkness is just fine. Essentially it has to do with whether or not a person believes JJ is "raping their childhood" or really has no exposure to classic Star Trek to begin with. This is roughly analogous to the situation with Star Wars episodes 1, 2 and 3. Kids who weren't born during the initial runs of 4, 5 and 6, believe 1, 2 and 3 are acceptable. Hell, some even like Jar-Jar. Figure that out.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorrinRadd 0 #8 July 31, 2013 quade***I enjoyed Into Darkness more. /facepalm I've (almost) come to the conclusion this is a purely generational issue though. If a person grew up during the Star Trek TOS time period, they more than likely hated Into Darkness. If they were born after say, 1982 or thereabouts, they probably think Into Darkness is just fine. Essentially it has to do with whether or not a person believes JJ is "raping their childhood" or really has no exposure to classic Star Trek to begin with. This is roughly analogous to the situation with Star Wars episodes 1, 2 and 3. Kids who weren't born during the initial runs of 4, 5 and 6, believe 1, 2 and 3 are acceptable. Hell, some even like Jar-Jar. Figure that out. I was born 1969. I wont say liked JJ Abrams interpretation more or less. Classic Trek will always be number one. But that doesn't mean I can't like JJ Abrams vision. I do. I don't think he raped it, destroyed it, or what have you. I just think he had a different vision. But I still think he is a Trekkie. I think his intentions were true. I have debated the merits and flaws of his Trek til I am blue in the face, so I wont do it here. All I will say is that there is no real answer to the question "which is better?" because it is apples and oranges. It is all a matter of taste.Why drive myself crazy trying to be normal, when I am already at crazy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 July 31, 2013 QuoteBut I still think he is a Trekkie. Well, that's where you're wrong. He has categorically denied watching the series and has positively stated he does not feel compelled to maintain canon.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorrinRadd 0 #10 July 31, 2013 quadeQuoteBut I still think he is a Trekkie. Well, that's where you're wrong. He has categorically denied watching the series and has positively stated he does not feel compelled to maintain canon. OK :) Back to Oblivion. Argued this one way too much to continue.Why drive myself crazy trying to be normal, when I am already at crazy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #11 July 31, 2013 NorrinRaddBack to Oblivion. Regardless of the one or two holes in the story, I thought it was good. There was exactly ONE line of dialogue I questioned in it and it had noting to do with story or plot, but rather tone. It's him cursing as a last act of defiance against, well . . . whatever the name that thing was. I'm not a prude by any means. I proudly swear like a sailor in the appropriate setting. What I found odd was the entire film went without it, then, there is this ONE line. It made no sense in context because it was completely out of tone with the rest of the film.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GooniesKid 0 #12 July 31, 2013 NorrinRaddOne of the very rare times I enjoyed Tom Cruise's performance. How about Top Gun? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #13 July 31, 2013 GooniesKid***One of the very rare times I enjoyed Tom Cruise's performance. How about Top Gun? Tarantino probably said it best.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #14 July 31, 2013 quade ******One of the very rare times I enjoyed Tom Cruise's performance. How about Top Gun? Tarantino probably said it best. "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorrinRadd 0 #15 July 31, 2013 quade******One of the very rare times I enjoyed Tom Cruise's performance. How about Top Gun? Tarantino probably said it best. lol omg I had to look that up. That was awesome. QuoteThe gays are beating the Russians.Why drive myself crazy trying to be normal, when I am already at crazy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorrinRadd 0 #16 July 31, 2013 GooniesKid***One of the very rare times I enjoyed Tom Cruise's performance. How about Top Gun? Nope. One of the times I hated him. I liked him in Magnolia, where he played a misogynistic asshole. A natural role for him. I liked him in Legend. Cheesy flick, but he was good as Jack. Still new enough to work for his meal ticket. He was decent as Lestat, too.Why drive myself crazy trying to be normal, when I am already at crazy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #17 July 31, 2013 quade ******One of the very rare times I enjoyed Tom Cruise's performance. How about Top Gun? Tarantino probably said it best. Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #18 July 31, 2013 Cruise will always be best remembered for two films: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXRd8JOyYlM "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #19 July 31, 2013 Les Grossman is probably his greatest role for his amazingly accurate portrayal of a typical producer. When watching Tropic Thunder I honestly didn't recognize Cruise as much as I recognized a dozen other weasels. BTW, something I don't talk about much, I actually am a judge of professional acting. I even have a card that says so.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GooniesKid 0 #20 July 31, 2013 NorrinRadd******One of the very rare times I enjoyed Tom Cruise's performance. How about Top Gun? Nope. One of the times I hated him. I liked him in Magnolia, where he played a misogynistic asshole. A natural role for him. I liked him in Legend. Cheesy flick, but he was good as Jack. Still new enough to work for his meal ticket. He was decent as Lestat, too. Contrary to popular belief im no homo..but I always wanted to either be Iceman or Jester. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #21 August 1, 2013 NorrinRadd He was decent as Lestat, too. OMFG you're kiddingHe was NOTHING like Lestat. worst casting EVERYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorrinRadd 0 #22 August 1, 2013 Squeak *** He was decent as Lestat, too. OMFG you're kiddingHe was NOTHING like Lestat. worst casting EVERhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q662gCwpKfI Edit: I would have preferred their original choice of Julian Sands, but I found Tom Cruise acceptable.Why drive myself crazy trying to be normal, when I am already at crazy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #23 August 1, 2013 QuoteMaybe you need to watch it again. Um, no thanks. SPOILER ALERT!!! The whole method of invasion made no sense. Why go through the trouble? The only way the species can attack a planet is make clones of whoever they send up, and then fool them into thinking they're fighting for the good guys? Please. And more importantly, why let him onto the mothership at the end? You've got technology capable of all the shit that the aliens can do, but you can't tell that there's a bomb on the ship (that you made)? It seemed like about 3/4 of the way through filming they sat down and said, "Okay, how are we going to end this thing?" - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #24 August 1, 2013 Really? You are picking holes in the realism of a hollywood plot?! 2 Words for you: Point Break Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #25 August 1, 2013 QuoteReally? You are picking holes in the realism of a hollywood plot?! 2 Words for you: Point Break What?!? I thought that was a documentary. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
