theonlyski 8 #1 July 23, 2013 http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2013/7/22/two_toddlers_recover.html http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2013/7/22/man_dies_after_drivi.html That's 3 children severely injured and one adult dead. What the hell is going on this year? ETA: https://www.change.org/petitions/us-government-and-lawn-mower-companies-enact-stricter-regulations-on-lawn-mowers They have a petition for stricter regulations on lawn mowers... Maybe we need to start using foam noodles to cut grass."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver604 0 #2 July 23, 2013 Stricter regulations on lawn mowers won't do shit, people need to exercise common sense, basic safety precautions and also take responsibility for their actions and be accountable for their actions,,,,,,all of which seems to be on the decline. "The greater danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it." - Michelangelo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #3 July 23, 2013 skydiver604 Stricter regulations on lawn mowers won't do shit, people need to exercise common sense, basic safety precautions and also take responsibility for their actions and be accountable for their actions,,,,,,all of which seems to be on the decline. Well, over 370 people don't agree with us... they signed the damn petition. "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver604 0 #4 July 23, 2013 We have 370 potential accidents,,,,how awesome is that? Actually not a surprise, I worked Health and Safety for a large manufacturing company, the lengths we had to go to installing guards on equipment to make them idiot proof so the trained worker could operate safely and somewhat accident free was just mind boggling. "The greater danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it." - Michelangelo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #5 July 23, 2013 I have enough stoopid safety switches and interlocks on my rider now. People need to use a brain if they have one. If they don't, there are plenty of lawn services to choose from. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #6 July 23, 2013 I've spent a good chunk of my career handling - on both defense and plaintiff's sides - product liability/injury claims involving machinery, including lawnmowers. Sometimes the accidents can be prevented (or their severity reduced) mainly with better safety design (really!), sometimes they're mainly the result of operator error and/or carelessness, and sometimes the cause is a combination of both. Both as a lawyer and as a "suburban kid" (and now a suburban dad) who's now over 50, I'm very aware of how mowers and lawn tractors used to be designed, and what safety features are now included that didn't exist, say, 40 years ago. Even hedge clippers are safer now, having "dead hand" switches and a shield/guard between the grip and the blades. They're all still very serious machinery, but safety features have made them measurably safer than they used to be. The accidents linked in the OP both seem to me to be cases almost entirely of operator error. And the drowning case really isn't a "lawnmower" case per se, for that matter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #7 July 23, 2013 I see a lot of equipment "repaired" when a switch or interlock fails. It's typically eliminated. geniuses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #8 July 23, 2013 Quote Rough year for lawn mowers Rough year for stupid lawn mower operators.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 60 #9 July 23, 2013 Remster Quote Rough year for lawn mowers Rough year for stupid lawn mower operators. And their kids! lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #10 July 23, 2013 Remster Quote Rough year for lawn mowers Rough year for stupid lawn mower operators. It's a lot like doing up your chest strap. There are times when you just need to PAY ATTENTION. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 60 #11 July 23, 2013 http://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/health-med-fit/lawn-mower-accidents-on-the-rise-in-st-louis-region/article_6944d498-5f30-50ad-baaa-c078160711f7.html QuoteNationally, more than 25,000 people are injured and 75 are killed each year in lawn mower and garden tractor accidents. Lawn mowers send nearly 10,000 children to hospitals each year, and cause about 15 deaths. Quote Most of the injuries among children occur when a child falls off a riding mower or runs in front of a push mower. For adults, it’s slipping and catching a foot under the mower, or backing up and over the toes.lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #12 July 23, 2013 JohnMitchell *** Quote Rough year for lawn mowers Rough year for stupid lawn mower operators. It's a lot like doing up your chest strap. There are times when you just need to PAY ATTENTION. Agreed! It's also like one or more features (take your pick) that genuinely make sport skydiving gear safer today than sport gear was, say, 35-40 years ago. In each case, a system is an integrated whole comprised mainly of both equipment and operator. Each needs to be as safe as possible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorrinRadd 0 #13 July 23, 2013 skydiver604Stricter regulations on lawn mowers won't do shit, people need to exercise common sense, basic safety precautions and also take responsibility for their actions and be accountable for their actions,,,,,,all of which seems to be on the decline. Yep. Can't argue with that.Why drive myself crazy trying to be normal, when I am already at crazy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #14 July 23, 2013 NorrinRadd***Stricter regulations on lawn mowers won't do shit, people need to exercise common sense, basic safety precautions and also take responsibility for their actions and be accountable for their actions,,,,,,all of which seems to be on the decline. Yep. Can't argue with that. Sorry, but as a blanket statement, it's partly correct, partly deficient and partly pure speculation. Please see my posts #s 6 & 12. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorrinRadd 0 #15 July 23, 2013 Andy9o8******Stricter regulations on lawn mowers won't do shit, people need to exercise common sense, basic safety precautions and also take responsibility for their actions and be accountable for their actions,,,,,,all of which seems to be on the decline. Yep. Can't argue with that. Sorry, but as a blanket statement, it's partly correct, partly deficient and partly pure speculation. Please see my posts #s 6 & 12. They are well written.. great points. But, I still can't argue with what he said.Why drive myself crazy trying to be normal, when I am already at crazy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #16 July 23, 2013 NorrinRadd *********Stricter regulations on lawn mowers won't do shit, people need to exercise common sense, basic safety precautions and also take responsibility for their actions and be accountable for their actions,,,,,,all of which seems to be on the decline. Yep. Can't argue with that. Sorry, but as a blanket statement, it's partly correct, partly deficient and partly pure speculation. Please see my posts #s 6 & 12. They are well written.. great points. But, I still can't argue with what he said. I don't argue with "people need to exercise common sense, basic safety precautions and also take responsibility for their actions and be accountable for their actions". I do argue w/the other 2 points. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #17 July 23, 2013 normiss I see a lot of equipment "repaired" when a switch or interlock fails. It's typically eliminated. geniuses. Dude, read some of the comments on the petition! Merrill Roe Jr. HAINES CITY, FL Too Many Sencless Injuries To Small Children. Need To Possibly Install Some Sort Of Back Up Sensor That When The Mower Comes In Contact With Something Or Someone, It Cuts Power To The Engine. Carmen Tate VALRICO, FL I am a pediatric nurse caring for injured children. We have safety features on our garage doors, why not our lawn mowers as well? Jose Fiallo BRANDON, FL Anyy laws helping to prevent our kids and families going through the same as the families of previous lawn more accidents. anne swallow PALM HARBOR, FL Lawn mower blades should stop as the garage door opener or a cast cutter does with an auto stop when anything solid is caught. Laura Albrecht NEW PORT RICHEY, FL children are a terrible thing to run over, the blades should have some kind of kill switch/guard on them "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #18 July 23, 2013 In short, a LOT of people's brains are stuck in disengage. There should be a sensor to turn them on when they need them. Preferably something sharp. Like a blade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver604 0 #19 July 23, 2013 I can agree with the shark wearing the 3 piece suit, he brings up some good points. "The greater danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it." - Michelangelo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #20 July 23, 2013 Those are classic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorrinRadd 0 #21 July 23, 2013 Andy9o8 ************Stricter regulations on lawn mowers won't do shit, people need to exercise common sense, basic safety precautions and also take responsibility for their actions and be accountable for their actions,,,,,,all of which seems to be on the decline. Yep. Can't argue with that. Sorry, but as a blanket statement, it's partly correct, partly deficient and partly pure speculation. Please see my posts #s 6 & 12. They are well written.. great points. But, I still can't argue with what he said. I don't argue with "people need to exercise common sense, basic safety precautions and also take responsibility for their actions and be accountable for their actions". I do argue w/the other 2 points. Awesome! :D Thanks for bringing it up!Why drive myself crazy trying to be normal, when I am already at crazy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #22 July 23, 2013 There are some that are made by someone with more than a brain cell to spare... problem is, they still signed the petition. Suzanne Abrams DOVER, FL yes we need stricter policies on IDIOTS RIDING LAWNMOWERS "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,436 #23 July 23, 2013 Hi Robert, Quote a cast cutter does with an auto stop when anything solid is caught. What???? The last time I had a cast cut off, I really looked at how it operated ( I am a Mech. Engr after all ). It was an oscillating blade, not a rotating blade. And since when is skin '. . . anything solid . . . ?' JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #24 July 23, 2013 Hey Jerry! That's my understanding too. I love going all engineer on doctors...it's entertaining when they can't explain it. "I CAN find out if you really want to know." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowwhite 0 #25 July 24, 2013 So I understand that most (all) equipment comes with an informative guide on operations. I usually (always) read that guide from cover to cover. I operate things like mowers, riding and push, trimmers, weedwackers and such, and my clients ask me questions like, "I put grass seed on this wall, and I know that it is twelve feet tall and straight up and down, but would you mow it for me?" DUH!skydiveTaylorville.org freefallbeth@yahoo.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
