oldwomanc6 54 #1 June 16, 2013 It's been awhile since I ranted about car related stuff, but since I spend a lot of time on the road (as do most of us), I have to vent about a single one-half hour on a Saturday afternoon! I was not driving, so I get a little leeway with my behavior. The following were weaving back and forth and otherwise driving erratically: A woman putting on mascara. A driver of a public bus specifically for disabled people, talking on the phone ( which is illegal in MD, and unsafe everywhere). She not only had people in the bus, but I yelled out the window at her to "get off the phone and drive." She looked like she would have given me the bird if she had a free hand. I wrote down the time, place, and bus #. Turning her in! I probably wouldn't if she quit talking, but no, she said ESAD with her eyes, waved the phone a little and just went on talking. These next two are new ones, for me anyway! A guy licking the foil "lid" on a butterscotch pudding cup with both hands. I looked at him, and he stuck it to the window of his truck, all without ever touching the steering wheel. All I can say is, I want the guy that does his alignment ! A gal flossing her teeth. I mean who does this where other people can see you? Let alone behind the wheel! EWWWWH! Rant over, for now, anyways. lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #2 June 16, 2013 One time I recorded my commute on my motorcycle with the GoPro, intending to highlight all the stupid shit I'd see in fifteen minutes, and upload it. Ended up being too much work so I shelved it and try not to think about how many people there were following at unsafe distances, fucking around on their phones in their lap, not using turn signals, not turning on headlights after dusk, having burned out brake lights/running lights, etc etc. Girlfriend thinks I should be a traffic cop, but I'd never pull anyone over for speeding as long as they're not being idiots about it, and I'd only grab people for stuff like the above.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #3 June 16, 2013 I joke about how you can tell someone is a bad driver from a distance. (A: They are behind the wheel.) In all seriousness, I think most people are good drivers most of the time, and nearly everybody is a bad driver occasionally. Some days, the joke seems to mirror reality the closest, though.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rifleman 70 #4 June 16, 2013 You think that's bad - take a look at this footage of a truck pushing a car sideways down the motorway. Apparently the driver was unaware that he'd collided with anything until people started flashing their headlights and sounding horns at him. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/8574609.stmAtheism is a Non-Prophet Organisation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingRhenquest 1 #5 June 16, 2013 I mostly just see jackholes with cell phones glued to their ears. I went down to SVCO the other day and the timing was such that I got to drove home on I25 at rush hour. I was actually surprised at the relative lack of general stupid shit that day, but at one point someone did try to change lanes into the motorcycle I was behind. Fortunately they weren't doing it quickly and the motorcycle noticed and honked before I had to be a witness. Three or four years ago I saw some woman come out from a liquor store parking lot, cross four lanes of traffic and run the motorcycle in front of me off the road. She kept right on going. I put my flashers on and helped him stand his bike back up. He was pretty pissed off about it. I would be, too. I'm trying to teach myself how to set things on fire with my mind. Hey... is it hot in here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 324 #6 June 16, 2013 people are way too hot on not talking on phones while driving, or testing and driving than on things that really matter, like drinking or following too closely. these are the things that kill people, something i can attest to having driven over a million miles as a trucker and regularly driving more than 500 miles a week now. those multi car pileups are not caused by weather or conditions, they are caused by idiots following too closely. I text and drive all the time on a flip phone without looking at it, and can have a conversation while driving because I constantly scan for anything in the road ahead and all my mirrors. we need a program like Germany where you don't get a license until you're 18 and have taken a real driving course you pay for._________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #7 June 16, 2013 sfzombie13people are way too hot on not talking on phones while driving, or testing and driving than on things that really matter, like drinking or following too closely. Studies suggest texting and driving is as dangerous as drinking and driving. Just because you do it regularly does not mean it's safe.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #8 June 16, 2013 sfzombie13people are way too hot on not talking on phones while driving, or testing and driving than on things that really matter, like drinking or following too closely. these are the things that kill people, something i can attest to having driven over a million miles as a trucker and regularly driving more than 500 miles a week now. those multi car pileups are not caused by weather or conditions, they are caused by idiots following too closely. I text and drive all the time on a flip phone without looking at it, and can have a conversation while driving because I constantly scan for anything in the road ahead and all my mirrors. we need a program like Germany where you don't get a license until you're 18 and have taken a real driving course you pay for. Yup...I used to think that way too. Then a couple years ago a good friend was killed because of some asshole texting while driving a truck. I bet 'that guy' didn't think it was a distraction either...until he KILLED someone, probably didn't think it was a big deal. I don't talk or text when driving anymore...I realized that I have NOTHING to say to anyone that's important enough to maybe have to live with the guilt of hurting some innocent person. Period. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #9 June 16, 2013 airtwardo Yup...I used to think that way too. Then a couple years ago a good friend was killed because of some asshole texting while driving a truck. I bet 'that guy' didn't think it was a distraction either...until he KILLED someone, probably didn't think it was a big deal. I don't talk or text when driving anymore...I realized that I have NOTHING to say to anyone that's important enough to maybe have to live with the guilt of hurting some innocent person. Period. Thank you for saying this. On the bike is the first time I became hyper-aware of other drivers... Part of it is that you have much better visibility; part of it is that you have to because you are so much more vulnerable... I had never previously noticed just how distracted other drivers are in relation to their surroundings... And the thing is, even at 30 MPH, it only takes a second to NOT notice something and drive right over/through/into it... Even if you *think* you can devote your attention to both texting *and* driving, numerous studies prove you can't focus properly on one thing whilst doing something else. Contrary to popular belief, people are NOT good at multi-tasking (yes, that goes for women too)."There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,461 #10 June 16, 2013 Quote Contrary to popular belief, people are NOT good at multi-tasking (yes, that goes for women too). They are, only in the way that Windows 3.1 was (for you old computer farts ). It could switch from task to task effortlessly. And whatever task was in the background, was stopped until you went back to it (by and large). Even on current computers, there are plenty of applications that slow down when you move them into the background, and speed back up again when you have that window selected as primary. People work pretty much like that. When you're driving, you're operating at least a ton of heavy machinery. Isn't that worth your attention? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 54 #11 June 16, 2013 airtwardo ***people are way too hot on not talking on phones while driving, or testing and driving than on things that really matter, like drinking or following too closely. these are the things that kill people, something i can attest to having driven over a million miles as a trucker and regularly driving more than 500 miles a week now. those multi car pileups are not caused by weather or conditions, they are caused by idiots following too closely. I text and drive all the time on a flip phone without looking at it, and can have a conversation while driving because I constantly scan for anything in the road ahead and all my mirrors. we need a program like Germany where you don't get a license until you're 18 and have taken a real driving course you pay for. Yup...I used to think that way too. Then a couple years ago a good friend was killed because of some asshole texting while driving a truck. I bet 'that guy' didn't think it was a distraction either...until he KILLED someone, probably didn't think it was a big deal. I don't talk or text when driving anymore...I realized that I have NOTHING to say to anyone that's important enough to maybe have to live with the guilt of hurting some innocent person. Period. One of the best bumper stickers I've ever seen said "HONK IF YOU LOVE JESUS, TEXT IF YOU WANT TO MEET HIM!" lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #12 June 16, 2013 Quote On the bike is the first time I became hyper-aware of other drivers... Part of it is that you have much better visibility; part of it is that you have to because you are so much more vulnerable... Amen to that! I quit riding for the years the kids were at home, started back up again this year...I've had several 'almosts' in the months since ~ every one, the cage driver was busy with a phone. Last week on the way to the DZ I was nearly sideswiped by an SUV ...the lady driving held up her phone to me like it was the PHONES fault! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #13 June 16, 2013 I think what people don't realize is how different it is to focus on a conversation on the phone than it is to have a conversation with someone else in the car. The person in your car can see what's going on around you. They can be another set of eyes and ears for problems on the road - either pointing them out to you, or shutting up when it's apparent that conditions have changed and you need to focus more on the road and less on the conversation. Meanwhile the person on the other end of the phone is going "Hello? Are you there? Did I lose you?" "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #14 June 16, 2013 NWFlyer I think what people don't realize is how different it is to focus on a conversation on the phone than it is to have a conversation with someone else in the car. The person in your car can see what's going on around you. They can be another set of eyes and ears for problems on the road - either pointing them out to you, or shutting up when it's apparent that conditions have changed and you need to focus more on the road and less on the conversation. Meanwhile the person on the other end of the phone is going "Hello? Are you there? Did I lose you?" YES. Actually, whilst I was in high-school, my best friend's mom forbade her to give lifts to her friends after she had just gotten her licence... She thought it was a stupid rule, but I didn't think so. Even an in-car conversation is distracting, especially to a new driver. So whenever she offered to drive me anywhere, I said no thanks - I'll just walk. She did a couple of barrel-rolls a couple of weeks later... She had been drinking and she had other people in the car... *That* certainly woke her up... Luckily she spun out of control on black ice and the only thing that suffered any injuries was her car... She then followed her mother's rules TO THE LETTER, funnily enough... "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #15 June 16, 2013 NWFlyer I think what people don't realize is how different it is to focus on a conversation on the phone than it is to have a conversation with someone else in the car. The person in your car can see what's going on around you. They can be another set of eyes and ears for problems on the road - either pointing them out to you, or shutting up when it's apparent that conditions have changed and you need to focus more on the road and less on the conversation. Meanwhile the person on the other end of the phone is going "Hello? Are you there? Did I lose you?" I remember reading a study a few years back that found that talking on the phone even negatively affected people's ability to walk in crowds compared to having a conversation with someone walking with them.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver30960 0 #16 June 16, 2013 I've taken up a similar habit... I do most of my driving on relatively sparsly-driven Interstate 10 (Southern AZ). This means fewer cars, but also a greater sense of complacency in drivers, and ergo LOTS of texting and talking while driving. I will usually give a pass to someone who is just talking on the phone and who also seems to be driving in a reasonably safe manner. BUT, if your talking is making you weave like a douche, or if you are looking at your phone for ANY reason as I pass you (none of this "I was using Siri" shit), I just lean on my horn. No friendly "tap-tap" on the horn and friendly smile as I make the "hang up and drive" hand signal. I just put my weight on the horn and leave it there until I'm done passing. This usually gets the point across, gets the driver's attention, and at a minimum disturbs them from their task for as long as I'm on the horn. If you're going to risk my life by texting while driving on the same road as me, I'm damn sure going to relish interrupting your train of thought and (if I'm lucky) scaring the shit out of you in the process. Elvisio "better than dying" Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #17 June 16, 2013 skydiver30960 No friendly "tap-tap" on the horn and friendly smile as I make the "hang up and drive" hand signal. I just put my weight on the horn and leave it there until I'm done passing. This usually gets the point across, gets the driver's attention, and at a minimum disturbs them from their task for as long as I'm on the horn. If you're going to risk my life by texting while driving on the same road as me, I'm damn sure going to relish interrupting your train of thought and (if I'm lucky) scaring the shit out of you in the process. Elvisio "better than dying" Rodriguez I do this sometimes as well... When someone has cut me off on a roundabout (when I had the right of way) or has caused me to deviate or is just plainly being dangerous... Sometimes they get annoyed with ME for honking, when they damned near killed me... I worry sometimes about road-rage and whether this long, sustained honking is the most effective way to get across to these morons that they should pay attention, or whether they just continue to think the nuisance is merely the loud noise they are hearing... "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver30960 0 #18 June 16, 2013 Natalyme... I worry sometimes about road-rage... ...I agree, which is why I usually don't pull this trick in very urban areas or really dense traffic. In situations like that, there is too much room for someone I'm NOT pissed with to decide that my honk was meant for them, and have things get ugly. On quieter roads, it's more obvious that yes, this was intended for THIS specific asshat. Elvisio "smart phones make us dumb" rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingRhenquest 1 #19 June 16, 2013 'course, back in Monkeytown when I started my career (Before the advent of cellphones) I went by some idiot on the interstate who was driving very erratically. I glanced over while passing and he had some big-ass book propped up on his steering wheel. People don't need technology to be stupid.I'm trying to teach myself how to set things on fire with my mind. Hey... is it hot in here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #20 June 16, 2013 skydiver30960 ***me... I worry sometimes about road-rage... On quieter roads, it's more obvious that yes, this was intended for THIS specific asshat. I worry about these people too... "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #21 June 16, 2013 Quote I worry sometimes about road-rage I worry that the asshat won't look at ME and be worried about road rage! I'd rather be the hammer than the nail! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #22 June 17, 2013 oldwomanc6 These next two are new ones, for me anyway! A guy licking the foil "lid" on a butterscotch pudding cup with both hands. I looked at him, and he stuck it to the window of his truck, all without ever touching the steering wheel. All I can say is, I want the guy that does his alignment ! Some people can drive with one knee leaving both hands free for other things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #23 June 17, 2013 DrewEckhardt *** These next two are new ones, for me anyway! A guy licking the foil "lid" on a butterscotch pudding cup with both hands. I looked at him, and he stuck it to the window of his truck, all without ever touching the steering wheel. All I can say is, I want the guy that does his alignment ! Some people can drive with one knee leaving both hands free for other things. ...and some of us don't use a 'knee' ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 54 #24 June 17, 2013 airtwardo ****** These next two are new ones, for me anyway! A guy licking the foil "lid" on a butterscotch pudding cup with both hands. I looked at him, and he stuck it to the window of his truck, all without ever touching the steering wheel. All I can say is, I want the guy that does his alignment ! Some people can drive with one knee leaving both hands free for other things. ...and some of us don't use a 'knee' We were in the truck, so I could look down at him, and it was neither appendage! lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigMark 1 #25 June 17, 2013 How can ANYBODY in this day and age who drives for a living not have a blue tooth ear piece? It boggles my mind that a guy in a semi truck with a 16 speed manual transmission tries to drive with one hand while talking on a cell. For the lack of $40 he will fuck up traffic all day long and or kill someone? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites