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Similar to how I feel. 90% of my commercial flights are 1.5-2 hours on regionals, so not much difference between seating anyways. I would prefer if everyone would just get their ass on the plane so we can get airborne. I think it's rather stupid the "levels" of boarding and all the other bullshit around just getting your ass on the plane so we get out of there. (and this coming from someone who's platinum) It turns what should be a 10 minute procedure into a long and drawn out sometimes 30 minute or more ordeal. Most of us on this page are happy and content to spend the better part of our weekends packed into jump planes like sardines, it's a bit comical the same group would be so concerned about where they sit on commercial flight.

I would LOVE to see them just queue everyone by seat number from back to front and the plane empties.. and WHOOOSH.. just start packen them in.. Whose dumb ass idea is it to let the fucking slowest people and the people in FRONT of the airplane in first....

AGREE!!!! I even wrote them a letter suggesting such and to color code a single aisle seat that one should walk past to their section.
Back to front to board.
Front to back to deplane.
How hard is that?!?!?!?!.

Hell, most any Air Force Loadmaster can tell you that.

I did too.. but you better not inconvenience the "Important" people.. ya know??

[chedlin 0]

I've only had the screens on Jet Blue, but if you take the brightness all the way to 0 the screen turns off.

[Phillbo 11]

First exit row isle seat. The seats in front of that row do not recline.

Being 6'4" flying sucks.

[MikeJD 0]

Since I first found out what a real view is like, from the door of a jump plane, I've just found airliner windows frustrating - so give me an aisle seat if possible.

The only seats I've actively avoided were on the BAe 146 that I used to take between London and Dublin every week. It's a high-wing aircraft and the wing roots took up ceiling space, so the lockers directly below them were only a few inches deep!

[ryoder 1,590]

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First exit row isle seat. The seats in front of that row do not recline.

Being 6'4" flying sucks.

It also sucks when you are 6'2", but have a strange torso:legs proportion with the legs of a 6'4" person. The last time I flew, I had some idiot in the seat in front of me repeatedly slamming his seat into my knees trying to recline it, and he couldn't seem to grasp my explanation that it wasn't going to happen.

I'd like the strangle the idiot who made the decision that a/c seats should recline.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[JohnMitchell 16]

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The times I do fly another carrier (United or Alaska, usually) I'm stunned that it takes them at least twice as long to turn a 737 (or aircraft of similar size) as it does Southwest.

SWA seems to taxi faster than anyone else, too. The industry tracks the turn times and it's a big deal. Airlines try many different methods to shave precious minutes off of this process. It's amazing, though, just how SLOWLY some passengers can move, isn't it? It's like they've never seen an overhead bin or know quite what to do with it.

The other day I was watching a flight load and thinking they should hire strong skinny teenage guys to move up and down the aisle hucking bags into the overhead and encouraging people to get their butt in their seat.


I think SWA's policy of no reserved seats works in their favor. I've sat at the airport waiting for my flight and watched several SWA flight come and go at a neighboring gate during that period. Well done.

[airdvr 210]

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The times I do fly another carrier (United or Alaska, usually) I'm stunned that it takes them at least twice as long to turn a 737 (or aircraft of similar size) as it does Southwest.

SWA seems to taxi faster than anyone else, too. The industry tracks the turn times and it's a big deal. Airlines try many different methods to shave precious minutes off of this process. It's amazing, though, just how SLOWLY some passengers can move, isn't it? It's like they've never seen an overhead bin or know quite what to do with it.

The other day I was watching a flight load and thinking they should hire strong skinny teenage guys to move up and down the aisle hucking bags into the overhead and encouraging people to get their butt in their seat.


I think SWA's policy of no reserved seats works in their favor. I've sat at the airport waiting for my flight and watched several SWA flight come and go at a neighboring gate during that period. Well done.

I for one won't be impressed until they learn the logical order to load the aircraft.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[wmw999 2,589]

In this case, the logical order is the one that works with real humans (i.e. including the stupid ones, and the slow movers). SWA's seems to work better than most other airlines' seating paradigms, which seem to be a "humor the frequent flier" variety.

Scientists have studied this, and it's not even rear-to-front/window-to-aisle that's fastest.

However, to reduce loading time that significantly, one begins to increase the setup time, making sure that families board separately from each other (they do tend to sit next to each other). Yeah, you can have the "blocks" be logical, but you have to deal with families then.

Personally, I think they ought to let the frequent fliers board last, and have their own part of the seating area with computer plug-ins until then. Just make sure there's enough overhead room for their luggage up front -- maybe isolate a couple of overhead bins just for the frequent fliers.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Rick 67]

It's amazing, though, just how SLOWLY some passengers can move, isn't it? ugh]


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It drives me crazy you know it's bad when the pilot has to announce to the passengers " we cannot leave the gate until everyone is in their seats"

get in sit down and buckle up damnit.

You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early!

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It's amazing, though, just how SLOWLY some passengers can move, isn't it? ugh]


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It drives me crazy you know it's bad when the pilot has to announce to the passengers " we cannot leave the gate until everyone is in their seats"

get in sit down and buckle up damnit.

And paradoxically the amazing speed at which people unlatch themselves and stand up as we taxi to the gate.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

[JohnMitchell 16]

Interesting article. I've often thought that they should board all window seats, then all middle seats, then all aisle seats. Or if you could get back to front boarding to work in an orderly fashion, and I mean exact row order, like we board the jump plane, Sitting in the very back? Get on first.

But I'm sure the good physicist's alternate row system would be the fastest and most efficient. Implementing it is a whole 'nother thing.

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It drives me crazy you know it's bad when the pilot has to announce to the passengers " we cannot leave the gate until everyone is in their seats"

get in sit down and buckle up damnit.

Would be funny if they had a Samuel Jackson version: "get your motherfucking asses in your motherfucking seats, buckle the fuck up, turn your motherfucking phones off and shut the flying fuck up!"

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[Rick 67]

You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early!

[theonlyski 8]

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It's amazing, though, just how SLOWLY some passengers can move, isn't it? ugh]

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It drives me crazy you know it's bad when the pilot has to announce to the passengers " we cannot leave the gate until everyone is in their seats"

get in sit down and buckle up damnit.

Would be funny if they had a Samuel Jackson version: "get your motherfucking asses in your motherfucking seats, buckle the fuck up, turn your motherfucking phones off and shut the flying fuck up!"

How do you know they don't?

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[wmw999 2,589]

I was on a flight leaving Vegas once, fairly late in the evening, at the end of some rodeo convention. Lots of cowboys, lots of them were pretty lit up.

Finally the pilot came on the PA and said something like "sit down now -- I'm not moving until you ALL sit down" pretty loud.

They got the message.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[grue 1]

Depends on the flight. I frequently fly transpacific, and if I can't fly business for that I typically go for the 2nd or 3rd to last row, port side aisle seat in the centre 4-block. The reason for this is because most people don't want to sit in the very back of the plane, and it increases my chance of being able to stake a whole row to myself, lay down across 4 and sleep for 8 hours of the flight, only leaving 6-7 hours of hating life.

Short flights, whatever as long as it's an aisle. The closer to the front the better, but I'm not too fussed.

cavete terrae.

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First exit row isle seat. The seats in front of that row do not recline.

Being 6'4" flying sucks.

It also sucks when you are 6'2", but have a strange torso:legs proportion with the legs of a 6'4" person.

I'm cursed in a different way: I'm 6'3" but TallGuy and I have the same MLW on our rigs. Duck legs!

cavete terrae.