Nataly 38 #1 March 27, 2013 If I remember correctly, McDonald's employees are to throw out unsold fries 7 minutes after cooking them. By that point, they are too disgusting for human consumption... Fresh-baked croissants are gross a few hours after they leave the oven... On the other hand, long-life milk can happily live (unopened) outside the fridge for several months... And once opened and in the fridge seems to last for weeks and weeks, passing the sniff-test... What I would like to know is: what the heck are we putting in our food??!!! "There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverbry 0 #2 March 27, 2013 Prolly better not to knowBry -------------------------------------------------- Growing old is mandatory.Growing up is optional!! D.S.#13(Dudeist Skdiver) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJD 0 #3 March 27, 2013 I guess with McDonalds there's pressure to maintain consistent quality (notice I don't say high quality!) Chips (fries) are indeed much nicer when they're freshly cooked than when they've been kept warm even for a few minutes - hence I try only to visit our local chippie on a Friday evening when the turnover is high, so the chips are served straight from the fryer. As for long-life milk, I don't think there's anything 'in' it - isn't it just heat-treated to sterilise it? My girlfriend used to buy it, and I kind of got used to the taste - but it's not as nice as fresh milk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,317 #4 March 27, 2013 http://www.healthbasics.net/2010/08/02/anatomy-of-a-big-mac/ And since you're across the pond... http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/on-the-menu-at-mcdonalds-78-additives-some-may-be-harmful-767533.html UHT stands for “Ultra High Temperature processing,” which is just another way of heating milk to kill bacterial spores. In the pasteurization process, the milk is heated to 72°C (161.6°F) for at least 15 minutes, whereas the UHT process heats the milk at 135°C (275°F) for one to two seconds. This flash of extreme heat is said to kill off any spores in the milk, and is currently a process that is being used for other products such as fruit juices, cream, yogurt, wine, and soups. Read more http://www.vagabondjourney.com/what-is-uht-milk/Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayneflorida 0 #5 March 27, 2013 Steve McQueen eating bugs in Papillon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #6 March 27, 2013 QuoteAs for long-life milk, I don't think there's anything 'in' it - isn't it just heat-treated to sterilise it? My girlfriend used to buy it, and I kind of got used to the taste - but it's not as nice as fresh milk. Well, on the bottle I'm looking at, it says "lait demi écrémé stérilisé UTH," (semi-skimmed milk, sterilised UTH) but there is nothing explaining what it is "made" from... I bought it over a month ago, and the sell-by date is 08 June 2013. It says to refrigerate after opening and is sold on the normal shelves (as opposed to the refrigerated ones)... Hmmm... Kinda makes you wonder, really... ETA - thanks to Bigun for the link on UTH... Still not really convinced it's as good as fresh milk and since it doesn't list its ingredients (on this particular bottle), I cannot believe they don't add anything... I'm sure they would shout it out if it were free of preservatives..."There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HighJB 0 #7 March 27, 2013 Quote This flash of extreme heat is said to kill off any spores in the milk, and is currently a process that is being used for other products such as fruit juices, cream, yogurt, wine, and soups. Wine ? You can't call a beverage "wine" if it has been treated that way ça passe ou ça frotte Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,317 #8 March 27, 2013 There are no preservatives in UHT products. ETA: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=preservatives+in+uht+milk&oq=preservatives+in+uht+milk&gs_l=hp.3..0i22i30.4473.10975.0.11204.25.12.0.13.13.0.240.1897.0j11j1.12.0...0.0...1c.1.7.psy-ab.qlJ8BBt1-Ts&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.44342787,d.b2I&fp=b3fab287a98e8097&biw=1920&bih=944Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #9 March 27, 2013 Genetically modified.... Chemicals.... Edited to add... Pink pseudo-mystery-meat AGRI BUSINESS...( think about the scene in one of The Omen movies) Grow your own.. and kill your own... then you know exactly what is in your food.. otherwise.... just suck it up cupcake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #10 March 27, 2013 Quote on the bottle I'm looking at, it says "lait demi écrémé stérilisé UTH," (semi-skimmed milk, sterilised UTH) but there is nothing explaining what it is "made" from... Presumably this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #11 March 27, 2013 Lemme get this straight: Nataly is complaining her milk doesn't spoil? "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #12 March 27, 2013 Quote Steve McQueen eating bugs in Papillon. One of the all time great movies... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #13 March 27, 2013 Quote Steve McQueen eating bugs in Papillon. And pretty much anything they ate on The Fear Factor. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #14 March 27, 2013 Quote Quote Steve McQueen eating bugs in Papillon. And pretty much anything they ate on The Fear Factor. Yummy!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nataly 38 #15 March 27, 2013 QuoteThere are no preservatives in UHT products. ETA: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=preservatives+in+uht+milk&oq=preservatives+in+uht+milk&gs_l=hp.3..0i22i30.4473.10975.0.11204.25.12.0.13.13.0.240.1897.0j11j1.12.0...0.0...1c.1.7.psy-ab.qlJ8BBt1-Ts&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.44342787,d.b2I&fp=b3fab287a98e8097&biw=1920&bih=944 Yes, it shouldn't have other crap in there, but since it says NOTHING on the label, I wouldn't bet my life on it..."There is no problem so bad you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield « Sors le martinet et flagelle toi indigne contrôleuse de gestion. » - my boss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #16 March 27, 2013 Quote Quote There are no preservatives in UHT products. ETA: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=preservatives+in+uht+milk&oq=preservatives+in+uht+milk&gs_l=hp.3..0i22i30.4473.10975.0.11204.25.12.0.13.13.0.240.1897.0j11j1.12.0...0.0...1c.1.7.psy-ab.qlJ8BBt1-Ts&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.44342787,d.b2I&fp=b3fab287a98e8097&biw=1920&bih=944 Yes, it shouldn't have other crap in there, but since it says NOTHING on the label, I wouldn't bet my life on it... Ah... but you are my dear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #17 March 27, 2013 Quote Quote Steve McQueen eating bugs in Papillon. And pretty much anything they ate on The Fear Factor. A long time ago I saw Geraldo Rivera do a story on SERE School. The instructor gave Geraldo an earthworm to eat."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #18 March 27, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Steve McQueen eating bugs in Papillon. And pretty much anything they ate on The Fear Factor. A long time ago I saw Geraldo Rivera do a story on SERE School. The instructor gave Geraldo an earthworm to eat. They are much better if you take the night crawlers and stick em in moist corm meal first then pop em in the deep fryer... Kind of like an outside in corndog Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #19 March 27, 2013 Mmm...crickets! http://www.mnn.com/food/healthy-eating/blogs/insects-the-new-protein-source"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #20 March 27, 2013 I believe its just heat treated/boiled to kill bacteria and then vacuum sealed. No air get is in so no bacteria can grow and spoil it. Stuff that has contact with air and does not spoil I would not eat.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #21 March 27, 2013 I just sat on the couch last night with Vskydiver and our youngest daughter and watched "Forks Over Knives", a discussion of diet vs. health. Although there are some holes in the science, it does have me re-thinking my diet some. As a Texan, I was raised on meat, meat and more meat. I guess there's room for more veggies. Most disgusting food? Twinkies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #22 March 27, 2013 QuoteStuff that has contact with air and does not spoil I would not eat.like honey ?scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #23 March 27, 2013 Quote As a Texan, I was raised on meat, meat and more meat. I guess there's room for more veggies. When I live/worked in Ft Worth, I couldn't believe it the first time I went to a local barbecue restaurant: 18 varieties of barbecue. Vegetables? Oh, here is half an ear of corn."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #24 March 27, 2013 Quote Stuff that has contact with air and does not spoil I would not eat. So you won't eat olive oil? I'm still using a 3L jug I bought several years ago. You don't put in in the frig because that only makes it cloudy, and at room temps it won't spoil anyway."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #25 March 27, 2013 Quote When I live/worked in Ft Worth, I couldn't believe it the first time I went to a local barbecue restaurant: 18 varieties of barbecue. Vegetables? Oh, here is half an ear of corn. Yep, that's kinda how I cook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
