Deuce 1 #76 February 1, 2003 Awful. Really sad flashbacks to where I was when the Challenger went. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #77 February 1, 2003 Quote Awful. Really sad flashbacks to where I was when the Challenger went. Oh damn....then that makes this Deja vu for me. I was actually living here in Colorado at the time. (we moved around a lot when I was little so I was only here for like 6-9 months) It's odd, cause last night I was scanning some of the photos and different things Derek got when he worked for NASA. I can't get ahold of him to find out if he knew anyone who was up on this mission.Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #78 February 1, 2003 i've posted this on another thread that was started on this disaster, but i'll repost it here. on behalf of the people of Israel, who also have a personal angle on this tragedy, i would like to express our shock and deep sadness. to us, Col. Ramon was the first Israeli in space. as far as i know he was well integrated with the crew and was accepted as an equal part of it. and as such, and as a symbol of the cooperation between our two countries, i would like him to be remembered. indeed, a sad day. may we all learn and rise from this disaster... O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #79 February 1, 2003 Yes, I don't think I'll ever forget sitting in a classroom, roughly in the sixth grade, proudly watching a the next takeoff. We actually had a former astronaut in the class explaining what was going on. We really didn't understand what was going on when it blew up, we weren't old enough to connect the dots between the puff of white smoke and an explosion. The teachers and the astronauts were useless, they were speachless. They were staring at the screen in shock, we were staring at them wondering why they stopped in mid-speech. Slowly, it dawned on us that something very badly had gone wrong. I never would've imagined we'd be seeing the same thing happen again. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowbird 0 #80 February 1, 2003 Like SkySlut, I was in class watching the live broadcast when Challenger exploded. I heard about Columbia from the CNN Breaking News e-mail. Before I opened that e-mail, I was reading the most recent mission update that was sent last night, about their science research and preparations for landing. I usually follow these missions pretty closely, and although they never downplay the risk involved, it still seems impossible that something like this will happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowbird 0 #81 February 1, 2003 QuoteThe teachers ... were useless, they were speachless. They were staring at the screen in shock, we were staring at them wondering why they stopped in mid-speech. Slowly, it dawned on us that something very badly had gone wrong. Yeah, I was in grade 2, and that's how I remember it. Jan 27 was also the anniversary of the Apollo fire. 3 astronauts lost their lives in that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #82 February 1, 2003 Dan Rather usually has the best sources on this due to his passion of space flight: The first speculation, before the NASA press conference: One of the twin rockets, during jetison on takeoff, may have hit the left wing and removed some of the heat tiles. The CBS NASA reporter says his sources in NASA say the last report from the shuttle was the tires on the landing gear in the left wing were reporting something wrong with their inflation level. They think that it also reported something with the left aileron._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nathaniel 0 #83 February 1, 2003 I found this link on spaceflightnow.com http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts107/030201columbia/radarimage.html The debris is apparently registering on weather radar. My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luna 0 #84 February 1, 2003 Yes, this has brought the Challenger accident rushing back as well. I was in 8th grade, living right near Johnson Space Center (Mission Control) just south of Houston. There was a girl one grade ahead of me whose father was on Challenger. Living in that area of town it hit us very hard. We were all brought together to watch the launch, as well, and it is still hard to remember. I just can't believe that it has happened again. My thoughts and prayers go out to all affected by this tragedy. Still praying that nobody on the ground was seriously injured by the falling debris. I'm walking a marathon to raise money for the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society. Click Here for more information! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n2skdvn 0 #85 February 1, 2003 FEMA is going to be heading the investigation of the debris feildif my calculations are correct SLINKY + ESCULATOR = EVERLASTING FUN my site Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n2skdvn 0 #86 February 1, 2003 president is preparing to speak....if my calculations are correct SLINKY + ESCULATOR = EVERLASTING FUN my site Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Designer 0 #87 February 1, 2003 Damn,the tech stuff is threr for an emergency "Esape" EGG!. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n2skdvn 0 #88 February 1, 2003 the tech in the shuttle is desinged for a lower altitude and a slower speed it would not of helped. the space shuttle was doing in excess of mach 17 at 200,000 ft and were in a plasma ball of 3,000 degrees (edit: typed to fast)if my calculations are correct SLINKY + ESCULATOR = EVERLASTING FUN my site Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #89 February 1, 2003 >One of the twin rockets, during jetison on takeoff, may have hit the left > wing and removed some of the heat tiles. So far NASA is reporting that a piece of foam from the ET struck the left wing; it's likely that had an SRB hit the left wing there would be no left wing left. That is a massive (and still powered at SRB separation) piece of hardware. >The CBS NASA reporter says his sources in NASA say the last report from >the shuttle was the tires on the landing gear in the left wing were >reporting something wrong with their inflation level. From the news conference, telemetry reported an out-of-range signal, indicating failure of the sensor or monitoring system rather than failure of the monitored system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #90 February 1, 2003 > There are still 3 astronauts on the International Space Station. If a >shuttle cannot go back up (after the last disaster, it took 2 years to go > back up), isn't there a Soyuz escape capsule? Yes, and there is also an automated Soyuz cargo ship that can be launched to resupply the station if necessary. The original X-34 (the crew escape capsule) was cancelled, but the attached Soyuz is able to take three people back to earth in an emergency. > And how long can they stay up there without assistence and support? June with no problem at all; longer if they extend their consumables. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #91 February 1, 2003 Apparently this was to be at the highest re-entry/landing weight ever for a Shuttle mission.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #92 February 1, 2003 > Apparently this was to be at the highest re-entry/landing weight ever > for a Shuttle mission. Which means the greatest amount of energy to dissipate during reentry. I strongly suspect that that alone was not the issue, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoby 0 #93 February 1, 2003 Quoteuh oh...this week was the anniversary of the challenger disaster. Last night, before I went to bed, I was reading an article on the Challenger. When my roommate woke us up this morning, I thought it was a bad dream. It was certainly weird coincidence that this would happen near the anniversaries of Apollo 1 and Challenger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #94 February 1, 2003 Debris trail on weather radar: [url http://v-serv.com/-upload/STS-107.iws0.jpg]Here[url]... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad47 0 #95 February 1, 2003 Blue skies for astronauts forever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moodyskydiver 0 #96 February 1, 2003 They've just found/confirmed human remains with some of the debris in TX.This is so sad. "...just an earthbound misfit, I." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #97 February 2, 2003 Although condolences continue to pour in from all over the world including Yassar Arafat, I think it's notewothy to quote Tariq Aziz from Iraq: "This is God's retribution, we are so very happy this has happened". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moodyskydiver 0 #98 February 2, 2003 Quote Although condolences continue to pour in from all over the world including Yassar Arafat, I think it's notewothy to quote Tariq Aziz from Iraq: "This is God's retribution, we are so very happy this has happened". "...just an earthbound misfit, I." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #99 February 2, 2003 QuoteAlthough condolences continue to pour in from all over the world including Yassar Arafat, I think it's notewothy to quote Tariq Aziz from Iraq: "This is God's retribution, we are so very happy this has happened". I'm not surprised....I'm sure there are many groups around the world celebrating that this happened.Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KawiZX900 0 #100 February 2, 2003 at 12,000 mph you pretty much go with God. no egress Accelerate hard to get them looking, then slam on the fronts and rollright beside the car, hanging the back wheel at eye level for a few seconds. Guaranteed reaction- Dave Sonsky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
