sonnylounsbury 0 #1 December 10, 2004 Has anybody had any luck dyeing container panels? Does it work? How long does it take to set....and does it bleed? Is it worth the trouble? Sonny Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 December 10, 2004 Do it and you are taking the risk of having riggers turn it down for repacks. The dye has not been tested on the material and in some riggers eyes it voids the TSO and they refuse to pack it. Best thing to do is to wash the container really good and just keep jumping it how it looks. Skydiving is'nt a fashion show.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #3 December 10, 2004 It won't work. It takes significant chemistry to get synthetics dyed. Your not going to be able to do it and have any kind of good results. A newbie brought me a rig he bought over the winter. It took me a couple of minutes to realize that something was wrong. A little closer look... the front of the webbing was black and the back blue! He had colored the whole rig, but only the parts that showed, with laundry markers! He did a very good job. No lines but it kind of rubbed off. But, he also had a worthless rig. No way was I going to pack it. And I wouldn't have wanted to set next to it in the airplane. If you want something a different color, call the manufacturer and see how much it will cost to replace the panel. Then decide how much the new color is worth.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #4 December 10, 2004 Another example of the negative consequences of dying a rig after the fact: a few years back, an old Talon reurned to Rigging Innovations. The second owner had dyed all the binding tape with black shoe dye. The official response from R.I. was "This rig was not here. We have not seen it. We never heard of any modifications to this rig. We will not do any repairs on it. We will not do any updates. We will not resize the harness. We will not sew in Cypres pockets, etc....." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #5 December 10, 2004 QuoteThis rig was not here. We have not seen it. We never heard of any modifications to this rig....... "If you will please look right here for a moment"....*click* *FLASH!* The R.I.B. (Riggers in Black)---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #6 December 10, 2004 QuoteIt won't work. It takes significant chemistry to get synthetics dyed. Your not going to be able to do it and have any kind of good results. A newbie brought me a rig he bought over the winter. It took me a couple of minutes to realize that something was wrong. A little closer look... the front of the webbing was black and the back blue! He had colored the whole rig, but only the parts that showed, with laundry markers! He did a very good job. No lines but it kind of rubbed off. But, he also had a worthless rig. No way was I going to pack it. And I wouldn't have wanted to set next to it in the airplane. If you want something a different color, call the manufacturer and see how much it will cost to replace the panel. Then decide how much the new color is worth. Like Terry said, dying a nylon product is tough. The webbing, cordura and the tape are all dyed while still in the fiber stage, before it is woven into fabric. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #7 December 10, 2004 I have a 60''(yes inch) white nylon cargo round with lines on it. I want to dye it a different color. Would I use food coloring, or clothing dye. Is it the usual, warm up the water and dye in a big pot, then let it sit and soak? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #8 December 10, 2004 QuoteI have a 60''(yes inch) white nylon cargo round with lines on it. I want to dye it a different color. Would I use food coloring, or clothing dye. Is it the usual, warm up the water and dye in a big pot, then let it sit and soak? You can give it a try, but like Larry said, the nylon material does not take dye very well. I would go with the warm water and big pot. Does the canopy have any markings on it? SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #9 December 10, 2004 If you don't care what it looks like go ahead and try. Since I doubt you'll be landing a 60 inch round. But, don't expect to get the color you think. Dirty white is likely.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #10 December 10, 2004 QuoteI have a 60''(yes inch) white nylon cargo round with lines on it. I want to dye it a different color. Would I use food coloring, or clothing dye. Is it the usual, warm up the water and dye in a big pot, then let it sit and soak? Also expect it to bleed profusely. Don't let it touch anything you don't want to have dye transfer onto. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sammer 0 #11 December 10, 2004 Here is a link to an article on dying parachutes (I think this is for the old suplus ones used for decoration): http://www.parachuteshop.com/Dye%20Your%20Parachute.htm He mentions that red rit dye works well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #12 December 10, 2004 Best bet? Don't do it! Bad ju-ju! Either check with the manufacturer about changing flap colors on the container or, save-up and 'custom' order a container you want. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonnylounsbury 0 #13 December 11, 2004 Thanks for the feedback....it sounds like a stupid idea ! No fashion shows for me Sonny Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peterk 0 #14 December 11, 2004 But back to my previous thread, what if you do want a fashion show... What are the properties of dacron lines as far as taking dye. Any dye from the fabric store?--------------- Peter BASE - The Ultimate Victimless Crime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #15 December 11, 2004 You need to get a dye specially for nylon. Generally it takes getting the water to a temperate thats near boiling and then soaking the material in it. I helped dye an ex-GF's jumpsuit and it was a really messy process that ended up staining her counter I think and the original colors were still slightly visable through the black dye. Its going to be messy, and you risk getting the f-111 material chemically altered by the dye if you are trying to get all the way to the canopy attachement points dyed. Chemically I don't know what effect the dye would have to the Dacron but typically most dyes are heave in acid material which would weaken the lines. Not ideal for your only canopy with hard openings.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
