bodypilot90 0 #1 December 16, 2004 anyone heard of any? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specnaz007 0 #2 December 17, 2004 Why this sudden question? Anything happened? Garik Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billbooth 10 #3 December 17, 2004 I haven't heard of any Vigil misfires since the Static Electricity fix. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #4 December 18, 2004 QuoteWhy this sudden question? had not heard of any and glad for anyone to give cypres a run for the money. Competition keeps prices down and keeps products improving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JumpShipGypsy 0 #5 December 18, 2004 Ive always wondered how many misfires cypres had when they first came out. Im pretty sure when my cypress expires in a few years i'll be buying a vigil to replace it. the vigil seems like it will be a better product than cypres when they work out all the bugs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #6 December 18, 2004 yep seems like a better deal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kimgriffin 0 #7 December 18, 2004 There have no reports on Vigil misfires since the static electricity shielding was increased (8 months ago) and all Vigils replaced. ~Kim Griffin Vigil USA DeLand, FL-Kimberly Griffin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumpster 0 #8 December 19, 2004 I'll be in the market for a new AAD but not for two years (when my Cypress expires-) A Vigil will definitely be considered. Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #9 December 19, 2004 It looks like my team will be replacing all its current AAD's with Vigils as the old ones expire during 2005. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #10 December 19, 2004 Good to hear. Sounds like they have the bugs worked out. Let the price war begin. Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmsmith 1 #11 December 19, 2004 QuoteLet the price war begin Don't forget the falling dollar is adding to the bottom line! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #12 December 19, 2004 QuoteGood to hear. Sounds like they have the bugs worked out. Let the price war begin. Derek I saw one DZ, a big one, that I plan on jumping at, on the list of their requirements, say Quote"Cypres AAD - Cypres is required for all jumpers with less than 1,000 jumps" Note - they did not use "Cypres" as a slang without AAD like "kleenex" without tissue - and they did not just say "AAD" - so I can only assume they really mean they want a Cypres and not some other brand... That was enough for me to buy the Cypres this time around. I don't want to have to ever prove my gear as safe to a DZ. For the price war to work (and by the way, I know from my own business that low pricing = what you pay for, so I don't know if I want a price war) - the community will have to respect both brands as being two sides of the same coin. I actually hope that instead of a price war, it is a quality and feature war. But knowing a laptop computer costs less than $1000 these days, and the most expensive VCR at BestBuy is less than $100, I would hope the age of electronics would make all AADs more cost effective. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #13 December 19, 2004 QuoteQuoteLet the price war begin Don't forget the falling dollar is adding to the bottom line! Since they are both made in Europe, the falling dollar is a moot point. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liemberg 0 #14 December 19, 2004 QuoteSince they are both made in Europe, the falling dollar is a moot point. 1. Why dont you Americans make your own? 2. Would you trust an AAD from...say...India? "Whoever in discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but memory." - Leonardo da Vinci A thousand words... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #15 December 19, 2004 QuoteQuoteSince they are both made in Europe, the falling dollar is a moot point. 1. Why dont you Americans make your own?2. Would you trust an AAD from...say...India? 1. We don't want to cut your exports in half. 2. Why not, I trust one made in Europe.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjhdiver 0 #16 December 20, 2004 QuoteQuoteSince they are both made in Europe, the falling dollar is a moot point. 1. Why dont you Americans make your own? 2. Would you trust an AAD from...say...India? They did. The latest is/was the FXC Astra. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #17 December 20, 2004 I've been using a Vigil in my 3rd rig for the past 8 months - with no problems whatsoever. I'm in the market for 2 new AAD's in the next year as my Cypres 1's timex. At this point - I'm 90% certain they'll be Vigils. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #18 December 20, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteSince they are both made in Europe, the falling dollar is a moot point. 1. Why dont you Americans make your own? 2. Would you trust an AAD from...say...India? They did. The latest is/was the FXC Astra. I was involved in some tests with the Astra piggy backed on. I take the one made in India. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjhdiver 0 #19 December 20, 2004 QuoteI've been using a Vigil in my 3rd rig for the past 8 months - with no problems whatsoever. I'm in the market for 2 new AAD's in the next year as my Cypres 1's timex. At this point - I'm 90% certain they'll be Vigils. t I have three Cypres's. When they are due to retire in the next year, I will be getting Vigils on general principle. I'm not rewarding Airtech for making me replace perfectly functional equipment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #20 December 20, 2004 Vigil will have you replace it too, just a bit longer then Airtec will.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #21 December 21, 2004 QuoteGood to hear. Sounds like they have the bugs worked out. Let the price war begin. Derek Mm, yeah, my favorite: lifesaving equipment made by the lowest bidder. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JumpShipGypsy 0 #22 December 21, 2004 QuoteQuoteGood to hear. Sounds like they have the bugs worked out. Let the price war begin. Derek Mm, yeah, my favorite: lifesaving equipment made by the lowest bidder. The most expensive isnt always the best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites