554 0 #1 December 25, 2004 I just acquired a fancy new 5 pound packing weight. It was nice enough to fall on my toe after I pulled a reserve out of the freebag. I'm glad it wasn't over the owners head at 120mph when it came out. Count your tools folks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dropzonefool 0 #2 December 25, 2004 Damn! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites teason 0 #3 December 25, 2004 Let me know if you find that pesky molar strap. I've using my ... um ... hey where's my belt!I would rather be a superb meteor, every atom of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and permanent planet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #4 December 25, 2004 Now THAT'S scary! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JumpShipGypsy 0 #5 December 25, 2004 About half the riggers i know have told a story like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #6 December 25, 2004 Quote I just acquired a fancy new 5 pound packing weight. It was nice enough to fall on my toe after I pulled a reserve out of the freebag. I'm glad it wasn't over the owners head at 120mph when it came out. Count your tools folks 5lbs? Shit, I'm pretty sure I'd notice the difference in how heavy my rig felt!---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites payback462 0 #7 December 25, 2004 Quote5lbs? Shit, I'm pretty sure I'd notice the difference in how heavy my rig felt! plus the extra few inches youd have to lengthen the loop! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mjosparky 4 #8 December 25, 2004 And I just popped a reserve and found the winning loto ticket.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #9 December 25, 2004 Quote And I just popped a reserve and found the winning loto ticket. Quote And..... When ya pop mine... all you find is DUST! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hooknswoop 19 #10 December 25, 2004 QuoteCount your tools folks Unbelielvable that a rigger left their packing weight in a reserve. My packing weights are either used during closing (so if I don't have it, I have to find it before I can close the container), or too big to get closed into a container. Big tools and long flags go a long ways to prevent packing a tool into a container. I've seen riggers that sew some velco to their Cypres temp pins and use them as line protectors. Hard to pack them into the container. What are some other good tips for preventing packing tools into rigs? Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites payback462 0 #11 December 25, 2004 QuoteWhat are some other good tips for preventing packing tools into rigs? i use my cypress temp pin to tie the risers together at the temp pin, i need it to close the container so i have to take it off the risers to close it. i also use clamps (not exactly something you could really leave on there and get it in the freebag anyways but) after the canopy is in the bag i make a spaceship shape with them so that i know i have all five. i also line up my tools next to me the same exact way every time after im done closing a rig. once i lay out the tools i need to pack a rig, my kit stays shut until im done, if i find out i need a different tool i write it down on my sheet and cross it off once its back in my bag. yeah yeah, it takes FOREVER (if you think thats bad you should watch me flake em) but it works for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FrogNog 1 #12 December 25, 2004 Quote 5lbs? Shit, I'm pretty sure I'd notice the difference in how heavy my rig felt! That makes for a good rigging sanity check: weigh the rig before and after. If the rig got 5 pounds heavier because of your pack job, maybe something isn't right. ;) -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tdog 0 #13 December 25, 2004 QuoteThat makes for a good rigging sanity check: weigh the rig before and after. Or do it like they do heart surgery... A tray of tools that not only has a place for everything, but is well counted before and after... My best friend is a heart mechanic and he hates when I joke about leaving tools under the hood. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mjosparky 4 #14 December 25, 2004 Quotei also use clamps (not exactly something you could really leave on there and get it in the freebag anyways but) after the canopy is in the bag i make a spaceship shape with them so that i know i have all five. A few years ago a Navy test jumper from China lake went in with a clamp on her reserve, it can happen. A 5 pound weight, well maybe, but that would be tough. I, like many other riggers, use a check sheet. It lists everything to be checked during a repack, and all tool are listed out and back in. Plus my riggers box is set up as a shadow box. Drawers are lined with thin red foam with a thicker piece of black foam over that. There is a cutout for each tool and if one is missing the red jumps out. I only pack when I am alone, no distractions. I don't answer the phone or the door. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChileRelleno 0 #15 December 26, 2004 Whoever packed that reserve last needs to woken up rather rudely. Send'em their weight back, better yet smack'em upside the head with it... I bet they won't forget it after that! Thats scary stuff! Mistakes happen but... someones life is on the line... ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nitrochute 2 #16 December 26, 2004 i once opened a reserve and found an ounce of pot in it!(years and years ago)COUNT YOUR TOOLS!!. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,026 #17 December 26, 2004 Quotei once opened a reserve and found an ounce of pot in it!(years and years ago)!. Gives a whole new meaning to "opening high"... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #18 December 26, 2004 Quote i once opened a reserve and found an ounce of pot in it!(years and years ago)COUNT YOUR TOOLS!!. Quote I always WONDERED what happen to that... .....Back in the days before the dogs, that was a LOT more common than you might think! I helped a guy walk the DZ once looking for 'something' he'd put in his bellyband pilotchute .....and had forgotten about! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites killler 2 #19 December 26, 2004 QuoteI just acquired a fancy new 5 pound packing weight. It was nice enough to fall on my toe after I pulled a reserve out of the freebag. I'm glad it wasn't over the owners head at 120mph when it came out. Count your tools folks At the very lest you should call/write to the rigger who's seal was on the rig.... No one was hurt (just your toe) and the rigger needs a heads up on what he did.... Packing a reserve when your tired or in a hurry is a No No... The check list is your friend.... Most aircraft crashes would not happen if the pilot had used a check list.... Killer.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 554 0 #20 December 26, 2004 Yea, I did. I e-mailed him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites payback462 0 #21 December 26, 2004 QuoteI, like many other riggers, use a check sheet. It lists everything to be checked during a repack, and all tool are listed out and back in. Plus my riggers box is set up as a shadow box. Drawers are lined with thin red foam with a thicker piece of black foam over that. There is a cutout for each tool and if one is missing the red jumps out. i use a checklist as well, but i like the box idea, I think im gonna use my few days off to find something like that for myself. sweet idea! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #22 December 26, 2004 I've seen someone that tied a 2-3 foot piece of rope between packing weights, I was shown the velcro on the cypres pin by Spy38w. I don't think my tool box is large enough to lay things out so I need to go make a good check list I guess.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #23 December 28, 2004 Holy crap! A 5-lb. weight, packed into a container... the rigger couldn't notice the difference in weight, before and after? I keep all my tools in a brief-case type carrier that I made while working on my Master's. The same bag is available through Para-gear. Each tool has it's own place. I have other tools that hang from a peg-board in my shop and each tool is 'assigned' it's own hook. Each tool (weights also), is 'flagged' with a neon-pink, length of Type 3. I also, use a check-list. Being rather 'obsessive-compulsive', hasn't hurt. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stratostar 5 #24 December 28, 2004 Did they ask for the weight back? If so send it back airmail, you good at spoting? Did you ask for your money back?LOL Did you get a reply, if so how was their demeanor towards you? `you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Pablito 0 #25 December 30, 2004 a great tip is to use a few tools, but necessary ones, count them before and after a repack, do a repack at a time, create a log for your tools, pay attention. Cielos Azules Pablito "If you don't overcome your fears they will overcome you first" Shady Monkey/6Segundos Rodriguez/AKA Pablito Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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teason 0 #3 December 25, 2004 Let me know if you find that pesky molar strap. I've using my ... um ... hey where's my belt!I would rather be a superb meteor, every atom of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and permanent planet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #4 December 25, 2004 Now THAT'S scary! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JumpShipGypsy 0 #5 December 25, 2004 About half the riggers i know have told a story like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #6 December 25, 2004 Quote I just acquired a fancy new 5 pound packing weight. It was nice enough to fall on my toe after I pulled a reserve out of the freebag. I'm glad it wasn't over the owners head at 120mph when it came out. Count your tools folks 5lbs? Shit, I'm pretty sure I'd notice the difference in how heavy my rig felt!---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
payback462 0 #7 December 25, 2004 Quote5lbs? Shit, I'm pretty sure I'd notice the difference in how heavy my rig felt! plus the extra few inches youd have to lengthen the loop! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #8 December 25, 2004 And I just popped a reserve and found the winning loto ticket.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #9 December 25, 2004 Quote And I just popped a reserve and found the winning loto ticket. Quote And..... When ya pop mine... all you find is DUST! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #10 December 25, 2004 QuoteCount your tools folks Unbelielvable that a rigger left their packing weight in a reserve. My packing weights are either used during closing (so if I don't have it, I have to find it before I can close the container), or too big to get closed into a container. Big tools and long flags go a long ways to prevent packing a tool into a container. I've seen riggers that sew some velco to their Cypres temp pins and use them as line protectors. Hard to pack them into the container. What are some other good tips for preventing packing tools into rigs? Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
payback462 0 #11 December 25, 2004 QuoteWhat are some other good tips for preventing packing tools into rigs? i use my cypress temp pin to tie the risers together at the temp pin, i need it to close the container so i have to take it off the risers to close it. i also use clamps (not exactly something you could really leave on there and get it in the freebag anyways but) after the canopy is in the bag i make a spaceship shape with them so that i know i have all five. i also line up my tools next to me the same exact way every time after im done closing a rig. once i lay out the tools i need to pack a rig, my kit stays shut until im done, if i find out i need a different tool i write it down on my sheet and cross it off once its back in my bag. yeah yeah, it takes FOREVER (if you think thats bad you should watch me flake em) but it works for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #12 December 25, 2004 Quote 5lbs? Shit, I'm pretty sure I'd notice the difference in how heavy my rig felt! That makes for a good rigging sanity check: weigh the rig before and after. If the rig got 5 pounds heavier because of your pack job, maybe something isn't right. ;) -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #13 December 25, 2004 QuoteThat makes for a good rigging sanity check: weigh the rig before and after. Or do it like they do heart surgery... A tray of tools that not only has a place for everything, but is well counted before and after... My best friend is a heart mechanic and he hates when I joke about leaving tools under the hood. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #14 December 25, 2004 Quotei also use clamps (not exactly something you could really leave on there and get it in the freebag anyways but) after the canopy is in the bag i make a spaceship shape with them so that i know i have all five. A few years ago a Navy test jumper from China lake went in with a clamp on her reserve, it can happen. A 5 pound weight, well maybe, but that would be tough. I, like many other riggers, use a check sheet. It lists everything to be checked during a repack, and all tool are listed out and back in. Plus my riggers box is set up as a shadow box. Drawers are lined with thin red foam with a thicker piece of black foam over that. There is a cutout for each tool and if one is missing the red jumps out. I only pack when I am alone, no distractions. I don't answer the phone or the door. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 0 #15 December 26, 2004 Whoever packed that reserve last needs to woken up rather rudely. Send'em their weight back, better yet smack'em upside the head with it... I bet they won't forget it after that! Thats scary stuff! Mistakes happen but... someones life is on the line... ChileRelleno-Rodriguez Bro#414 Hellfish#511,MuffBro#3532,AnvilBro#9, D24868 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitrochute 2 #16 December 26, 2004 i once opened a reserve and found an ounce of pot in it!(years and years ago)COUNT YOUR TOOLS!!. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #17 December 26, 2004 Quotei once opened a reserve and found an ounce of pot in it!(years and years ago)!. Gives a whole new meaning to "opening high"... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #18 December 26, 2004 Quote i once opened a reserve and found an ounce of pot in it!(years and years ago)COUNT YOUR TOOLS!!. Quote I always WONDERED what happen to that... .....Back in the days before the dogs, that was a LOT more common than you might think! I helped a guy walk the DZ once looking for 'something' he'd put in his bellyband pilotchute .....and had forgotten about! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killler 2 #19 December 26, 2004 QuoteI just acquired a fancy new 5 pound packing weight. It was nice enough to fall on my toe after I pulled a reserve out of the freebag. I'm glad it wasn't over the owners head at 120mph when it came out. Count your tools folks At the very lest you should call/write to the rigger who's seal was on the rig.... No one was hurt (just your toe) and the rigger needs a heads up on what he did.... Packing a reserve when your tired or in a hurry is a No No... The check list is your friend.... Most aircraft crashes would not happen if the pilot had used a check list.... Killer.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
554 0 #20 December 26, 2004 Yea, I did. I e-mailed him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
payback462 0 #21 December 26, 2004 QuoteI, like many other riggers, use a check sheet. It lists everything to be checked during a repack, and all tool are listed out and back in. Plus my riggers box is set up as a shadow box. Drawers are lined with thin red foam with a thicker piece of black foam over that. There is a cutout for each tool and if one is missing the red jumps out. i use a checklist as well, but i like the box idea, I think im gonna use my few days off to find something like that for myself. sweet idea! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #22 December 26, 2004 I've seen someone that tied a 2-3 foot piece of rope between packing weights, I was shown the velcro on the cypres pin by Spy38w. I don't think my tool box is large enough to lay things out so I need to go make a good check list I guess.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterrig 1 #23 December 28, 2004 Holy crap! A 5-lb. weight, packed into a container... the rigger couldn't notice the difference in weight, before and after? I keep all my tools in a brief-case type carrier that I made while working on my Master's. The same bag is available through Para-gear. Each tool has it's own place. I have other tools that hang from a peg-board in my shop and each tool is 'assigned' it's own hook. Each tool (weights also), is 'flagged' with a neon-pink, length of Type 3. I also, use a check-list. Being rather 'obsessive-compulsive', hasn't hurt. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stratostar 5 #24 December 28, 2004 Did they ask for the weight back? If so send it back airmail, you good at spoting? Did you ask for your money back?LOL Did you get a reply, if so how was their demeanor towards you? `you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Pablito 0 #25 December 30, 2004 a great tip is to use a few tools, but necessary ones, count them before and after a repack, do a repack at a time, create a log for your tools, pay attention. Cielos Azules Pablito "If you don't overcome your fears they will overcome you first" Shady Monkey/6Segundos Rodriguez/AKA Pablito Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
PhreeZone 20 #22 December 26, 2004 I've seen someone that tied a 2-3 foot piece of rope between packing weights, I was shown the velcro on the cypres pin by Spy38w. I don't think my tool box is large enough to lay things out so I need to go make a good check list I guess.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #23 December 28, 2004 Holy crap! A 5-lb. weight, packed into a container... the rigger couldn't notice the difference in weight, before and after? I keep all my tools in a brief-case type carrier that I made while working on my Master's. The same bag is available through Para-gear. Each tool has it's own place. I have other tools that hang from a peg-board in my shop and each tool is 'assigned' it's own hook. Each tool (weights also), is 'flagged' with a neon-pink, length of Type 3. I also, use a check-list. Being rather 'obsessive-compulsive', hasn't hurt. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #24 December 28, 2004 Did they ask for the weight back? If so send it back airmail, you good at spoting? Did you ask for your money back?LOL Did you get a reply, if so how was their demeanor towards you? `you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pablito 0 #25 December 30, 2004 a great tip is to use a few tools, but necessary ones, count them before and after a repack, do a repack at a time, create a log for your tools, pay attention. Cielos Azules Pablito "If you don't overcome your fears they will overcome you first" Shady Monkey/6Segundos Rodriguez/AKA Pablito Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
