bdazel 0 #1 July 31, 2012 I just got a nasty Trojan from Phoenix Fly website. Second trojan this year. The first was from Icarus's website a few months back. Come on, skydive industry, use a little security. My IT guy is not pleased. EDIT: Others have verified that PF website is safe. I'm still not sure what happened here, but it's entirely possible that I was wrong about the source of this. I don't wish any ill-will towards PF. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #2 July 31, 2012 This is inaccurate. Mods can you please flush this? The site works fine, no critters. Must have caught your STD somewhere else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdazel 0 #3 July 31, 2012 You're wrong. Don't screw over everyone else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tmccann 1 #4 July 31, 2012 Perhaps an ad periodically on both sites? Do both use the same ad service? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #5 July 31, 2012 There isnt a single case of Trojan or other type Virus ever reported on the PF website. Nor do any of the reputable security scans report the website as such. Nor is it possible in the way you describe. A Trojan is not a program that activates or installs itself. The user has to download and install a program, in which the Trojan is hidden. Usually 'funny' email attachments or small bits of software installed. Unless you actually got prompted to download and install files uppon visiting the PF website (which no other person has encountered) the cause is most likely a product of your own internet/mail use, and looking for a new 'IT guy' is recommended.JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #6 July 31, 2012 QuoteYou're wrong. Don't screw over everyone else. The fact that this is the second time you encountered a worm/trojan that can only be INSTALLED by opening malicious attachments to emails or executable files that you downloaded, suggests you need to look for a solution closer to home.JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdazel 0 #7 July 31, 2012 Call it what you will, but that webpage was the source. The timing of the invasion leaves no other options. I only said trojan because thst's what Symantec labelled it. IT guy knows his stuff. That is not a concern. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #8 July 31, 2012 Nor is a malicious accusation of the source of infection when it's incorrect. Good day to you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdazel 0 #9 July 31, 2012 QuoteQuoteYou're wrong. Don't screw over everyone else. The fact that this is the second time you encountered a worm/trojan that can only be INSTALLED by opening malicious attachments to emails or executable files that you downloaded, suggests you need to look for a solution closer to home. Please ignore the 'trojan' lingo and check your security. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #10 July 31, 2012 Quote You're wrong. Don't screw over everyone else. Just went there in a sandbox environment to see if anything had changed in the past 24 hours...nothing seen, nothing reported, nothing indicated. I'm there every couple of days; I don't run antivirus. But then again, I also avoid porn, warez, and music lyric sites, and like long walks on the beach while poking dead things with a sharp stick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #11 July 31, 2012 You shouldn't play in sandboxes Spot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdazel 0 #12 July 31, 2012 QuotePerhaps an ad periodically on both sites? Do both use the same ad service? I use an ad blocker, for what it's worth. Not sure if that would affect anything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdazel 0 #13 July 31, 2012 Quote Quote You're wrong. Don't screw over everyone else. Just went there in a sandbox environment to see if anything had changed in the past 24 hours...nothing seen, nothing reported, nothing indicated. I'm there every couple of days; I don't run antivirus. But then again, I also avoid porn, warez, and music lyric sites, and like long walks on the beach while poking dead things with a sharp stick. Ok, I'm sitting here racking my brain trying to figure this out. The only other option would be uspto website, which was open but not accessed for at least an hour prior, and which I visit daily with never a problem. no peripherals attached, No attachments or files downloaded. Nevertheless, pc is cleaned now, so I'm out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #14 July 31, 2012 So be nice and change the title to "I have an infection on my computer and could use some help please." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #15 July 31, 2012 PF site isn't even logging a cookie deposit in the sandbox, so it's got to be something else in your system. perhaps a link you clicked to get TO the PF site? a redirector? i've had that happen to me before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #16 July 31, 2012 Quote But then again, I also avoid porn, warez, and music lyric sites, and like long walks on the beach while poking dead things with a sharp stick. Damn, you're missing all the good stuff!"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #17 July 31, 2012 You're making me long for yore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdazel 0 #18 July 31, 2012 I changed the heading. I don't think anyone will argue with the new one. If I was wrong then I am truly sorry for any trouble that I caused. I was browsing through the products pages of PF if that matters. Maybe there was a hidden ad link somewhere on Google that I clicked without realizing it when I searched for the webpage? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #19 July 31, 2012 Quote Quote But then again, I also avoid porn, warez, and music lyric sites, and like long walks on the beach while poking dead things with a sharp stick. Damn, you're missing all the good stuff! Yeah? WTF is left? Boring bike and skydiving forum????? Blaaaaaaa....Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #20 July 31, 2012 Quote I changed the heading. I don't think anyone will argue with the new one. If I was wrong then I am truly sorry for any trouble that I caused. I was browsing through the products pages of PF if that matters. Maybe there was a hidden ad link somewhere on Google that I clicked without realizing it when I searched for the webpage? My knowledge of computers and viruses and such is pretty minimal, so I may be completely off the wall here (not that that's unusual ) But... Could a virus have a time-delay? To prevent the victim from figuring out where it came from and perhaps blame some innocent site?"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #21 July 31, 2012 Quote I changed the heading. I don't think anyone will argue with the new one. If I was wrong then I am truly sorry for any trouble that I caused. I was browsing through the products pages of PF if that matters. Maybe there was a hidden ad link somewhere on Google that I clicked without realizing it when I searched for the webpage? Prolly some 'other' site you frequent? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arvoitus 1 #22 July 31, 2012 So you were browsing through PF website when symantec made a pop-up saying there is something unwanted on your computer and you drew the conclusion that what ever it is, it must've come from PF website?Your rights end where my feelings begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdazel 0 #23 July 31, 2012 QuoteSo you were browsing through PF website when symantec made a pop-up saying there is something unwanted on your computer and you drew the conclusion that what ever it is, it must've come from PF website? No. I had just started browsing PF website, when a virus took over my pc. Symantec tried to stop it, but failed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie 3 #24 July 31, 2012 symantec flags all kinds of things as trojans, even some of the stuff we use at work. there are some registry entries that are flagged as well, i hate symantec.http://kitswv.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #25 July 31, 2012 So what did you order from PF??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites