normiss 843 #51 May 29, 2012 You can increase your in-air efficiency if your student is already on the ground when you get there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #52 May 29, 2012 I posted it on Fb, why the hell not it was already all over Yahoo, You Tube, the Daily Mail and just about everywhere else you cared to look. I knew it was only a matter of time before someone posted the link on my profile anyway and this way I was able to explain that its not the norm or condoned by Skydivers.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #53 May 29, 2012 ... and, still no one asking who this (so called) TI is. I want him on the today show with "no holds barred" questions. The first question I'd like to hear is, "What the FuThis lady has done more PR for our sport than we skydivers are able to do for ourselves. Just because she has no interest in a lawsuite and because she holds no grudge. Classy Lady! Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
janz 0 #54 May 29, 2012 Quote ... and, still no one asking who this (so called) TI is. I want him on the today show with "no holds barred" questions. The first question I'd like to hear is, "What the FuThis lady has done more PR for our sport than we skydivers are able to do for ourselves. Just because she has no interest in a lawsuite and because she holds no grudge. Classy Lady! Agreed about the lady. Also believe we shouldn't hide our incidents and fatalities. When one happens bring it in the open even for the general public. It is part of the sport. And statistics can be looked at many ways. Never believed that car ride to dz was more dangerous than jump. I can get a quote that there are only 1 fatality to every 150,000 jumps as opposed to 1 in every 2,000 auto crashes. But if we look at it in feet traveled per fatality who knows what the result would be? I've only known 1 person dead from car accident within past year and about 5 from skydiving. We do not gain by keeping things hidden. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #55 May 29, 2012 Quoteand the difference between a USPA dz, and non USPA dz... ... You mean that one sent USPA money and the other didn't, right? Cuz there is no other difference, at least according to the advertising I've seen for a "non USPA dropzone." Complacency on the part of tandem ride operators is not rare. It would be nice to know exactly how these things are "dealt with", but that will never happen as USPA is not required to disclose any details regarding disciplinary actions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #56 May 29, 2012 USPA had their nuts sniped with the Skyride issue. They have little to no authority left. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k-dubjumps 0 #57 May 29, 2012 https://www.facebook.com/notes/chris-kopacz/re-skydiving-grandma-almost-dies/10150884769271026 Long story short, don't go to Lodi because the "facility is the last refuge for skydivers and equipment that aren't safe enough for any of the reputable facilities in the country." Guess I need to inform my friends that we aren't safe enough to jump at other drop zones. Adrenaline is my crack DPH #3 D.S. #16 FAG #12 Muff Brother #4406 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Don 0 #58 May 29, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuoteAt some point you just have to start saying bat shit crazy stuff to make people shut up! No you don't. SIGH! Corsses arms... OK mom! I won't! You won't let me have any fun! http://laxallstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/tumblr_l0qzbsi2rm1qb2965o1_400.jpg Never poke mama bear. Oh, sorry, forgot you are to stupid to figure that out...I am NOT being loud. I'm being enthusiastic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #59 May 29, 2012 Quotetandems will be canceling left and right. Nope. The only people who give a shit about this are skydivers. The same way that the only people who care about not being portrayed as suicidal adrenaline junkies are skydivers. The world at large doesn't care. Whuffos have no idea of why that jump was any scarier than any other. They just get reminded that a skydive is on their bucket list and are more likely to make one in the long run... Don't get me wrong, the jump was a mess. But the hysteria coming from skydivers is almost as cringe-worthy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #60 May 29, 2012 Quote... and, still no one asking who this (so called) TI is. I want him on the today show with "no holds barred" questions. The first question I'd like to hear is, "What the Fu<& were you thinking? Oh jesus. Seriously? Who gives a crap what the public thinks about the whys of it when they're not going to understand it anyway? If you want to haul the guy over the coals do it where it will make a difference. At a USPA convened board, and show that stupidity won't be tolerated by yanking the guy's license. Leave the whuffos to go 'oooh ahh' over the video. Don't hide anything, but don't go airing dirty laundry in public just for the hell of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #61 May 29, 2012 Quote Now, thanks to one careless TI and DZ our sport is going to get a HUGE blackeye and tandems will be canceling left and right. I doubt that will be the case. Most people who have been thinking about jumping will probably realize that that is not the norm, while at the same time it might increase the dangerous/cool factor. Before I made my first jump, the only "skydiving" I had ever seen was in the movie Fandango, and that didn't exactly make it look safe. And, well, it's not 100% safe, and people should realize that before going on a tandem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #62 May 29, 2012 Quote Quote tandems will be canceling left and right. Nope. The only people who give a shit about this are skydivers. The same way that the only people who care about not being portrayed as suicidal adrenaline junkies are skydivers. The world at large doesn't care. Whuffos have no idea of why that jump was any scarier than any other. They just get reminded that a skydive is on their bucket list and are more likely to make one in the long run... Don't get me wrong, the jump was a mess. But the hysteria coming from skydivers is almost as cringe-worthy. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4322618#4322618 Opnions vary. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #63 May 29, 2012 QuoteThe only people who give a shit about this are skydivers. Apparently not. The FAA appears to be giving quite a bit of a shit. They could be posing for the media, of course. Wouldn't count on that, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #64 May 29, 2012 Why not? They've never done anything meaningful in the past when we've been killing ourselves. Again, for clarity. I think the video should be in the public realm. We shouldn't hide stuff because we're historically not that great about forcing changes to the sport. It's good that it's in the open and we have to react to it. I just think the hysteria from skydivers about how this is going to be the end of the world is a bit ridiculous. It won't be. Tandems will keep coming just the same. The FAA will almost certainly write a strongly worded letter and do nothing else. The tar and feather brigade on here will be baying for blood while the conservatives will be screaming about freedom to choose whatever they want to do in the air. It's just another episode of As The Prop Turns... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
texascrw 1 #65 May 29, 2012 The sport has really changed since I came back. I don't know who that guy is, but he wouldn't have lasted long on our small dropzones in Texas, back in the early 80's. Probably would have gone home crying, because we didn't have the latest gear, or weren't safe enough for him. If I am ever out that way, will be happy to drop in and jump at Lodi. BSBD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #66 May 30, 2012 Quote The sport has really changed since I came back. I don't know who that guy is, but he wouldn't have lasted long on our small dropzones in Texas, back in the early 80's. Probably would have gone home crying, because we didn't have the latest gear, or weren't safe enough for him. If I am ever out that way, will be happy to drop in and jump at Lodi. BSBD Really? How many of the instructors at those "Little DZ's in Texas" put you into a student rig without adjusting the harness to keep you from falling out in free fall? My guess is, most of those Instructors took your safety very serious. Even if you're not bright enough to know or appreciate it! Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuck_skywalker 0 #67 May 30, 2012 "oh, knitting is boring." loved that part of the interview!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #68 May 30, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote At some point you just have to start saying bat shit crazy stuff to make people shut up! No you don't. SIGH! Corsses arms... OK mom! I won't! You won't let me have any fun! http://laxallstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/tumblr_l0qzbsi2rm1qb2965o1_400.jpg Never poke mama bear. Oh, sorry, forgot you are to stupid to figure that out... Did you just call Skymama a bear? "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pontiacgtp00 0 #69 May 30, 2012 Well, there may be a few whuffo's who think twice about their tandems after seeing this video, but it won't be an epidemic of cancellations. People get killed on roller-coasters too, and that's always highly publicized. Even moreso than skydiving incidents. Does that stop people from flooding amusement parks just to ride the coasters? Nope, sure doesn't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pontiacgtp00 0 #70 May 30, 2012 Oh, and as with 99% of the material viewed on the interwebz...that video is fake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Don 0 #71 May 30, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote At some point you just have to start saying bat shit crazy stuff to make people shut up! No you don't. SIGH! Corsses arms... OK mom! I won't! You won't let me have any fun! http://laxallstars.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/tumblr_l0qzbsi2rm1qb2965o1_400.jpg Never poke mama bear. Oh, sorry, forgot you are to stupid to figure that out... Did you just call Skymama a bear? You have heard her roar! I am NOT being loud. I'm being enthusiastic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtiflyer 0 #72 May 30, 2012 Quote Quote Sadly that is but one of many errors on that particular jump. OK, I got: Instructors googles on his forehead on exit. What else? geez i missed the goggles, all i noticed is the horrible framing of the video Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtiflyer 0 #73 May 30, 2012 Quote You can increase your in-air efficiency if your student is already on the ground when you get there. not really only 1 body under a tandem main is a long ride down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
texascrw 1 #74 May 30, 2012 The screwup by the TI was not what my post concerned. And I don't condone it at all. My response was in reply to the blanket statement on the guy's Facebook page that everything and everyone was dangerous at Lodi. And yes, I did appreciate the care and attention that my instructors gave me as a student at those "small Texas dz's". However, since we didn't always do things 'by the book', he probably would have considered us dangerous too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoShitThereIWas 0 #75 May 30, 2012 I liked that. I hope I have balls like that when I am 80. She is awesome!Roy Bacon: "Elvises, light your fires." Sting: "Be yourself no matter what they say." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
